Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Ten_of_Swords wrote:

As it stands, yes there are some advantages to soloing... and thats not a good thing?

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Ten_of_Swords wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

And I would argue that the system encourages players to avoid group entirely.

And? Since there are many public groups at all areas of the game I would say the incentive/disincentives are working rather well.

I'm even seeing public HC map groups listed every evening, and I never saw that in the CB.

As it stands, yes there are some advantages to soloing... and thats not a good thing?

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oranged wrote:

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killbilly wrote:

yeah sure we have nothing better to do than bash without valid claims/facts.....

Let me sum up your valid claims/facts:

The loot system they intended for the game is too unfair because:

a. People get your loot because you have a shitty internet and can't afford real internet
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b. It's too much work for a person to kill monsters AND pick up loot

Did I miss anything?

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killbilly wrote:

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SeikenZ wrote:

Friends can perfectly arrange loot distribution between themselves, not? They don't need additional tools for that.

Me and a lot of others happen to like the "click loot fast" mode that the game started out with. It is reminiscent of D2. I don't get the same feeling that I get when I outclick someone on a good piece of loot, than when I need to be "considerate" and leave it for someone else. I only do that with "friends".

you do not understand right?
that is exactly the problem , while "friends" can overcome FFA system a public group of randoms cant'

so you are saying that with your friends you do not FFA but in public game you enjoy clickfest minigame? and you post it as a "good" point of FFA? guys seriously get some facts STRAIGHT for ONCE...

and by lot you mean a handful of clueless griefers? cause in the 800 pages thread i have YET to see a second valid PRO of FFA (the first only valid pro of ffa is the always PvP element aka "cut-throat")

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Kalriostraz wrote:

I'm honestly curious if you've looked at the names of those groups and the number of people in them. I know it's by no means a great sample size, but I check about once a day while I'm leveling characters and it's usually along the lines of "Kill X" or "Doing X quest" that have more than 1-3 people in them. These of course disband after said goal is accomplished. Now I'm not saying I have anything against people doing that. Far from it. But it's a good distance from people getting together and doing whole sections of content together. Not to mention there's usually not much more than a page of groups. Just some food for thought, and interested to know what you're seeing if it's different, especially by how much if so.

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SeikenZ wrote:

"in parties between friends"

Friends can perfectly arrange loot distribution between themselves, not? They don't need additional tools for that.

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Minioneer wrote:

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SeikenZ wrote:

"in parties between friends"

Friends can perfectly arrange loot distribution between themselves, not? They don't need additional tools for that.

Actually, we do need them. My friends and I always play together, never with anyone else, and we have an absolute rule that we will only play games with fully allocated loot. We don't want to be constantly plagued with doubts about whether we're being too greedy or too generous. We don't want our friendships strained by hard feelings about who got what or who deserved what. There's enough of that sort of thing in real life. We quit playing D2 entirely because of its FFA loot, and we have refrained from playing PoE for the same reason. I gave up and departed the PoE forums months ago, but I can't resist coming back once in a while to see if GGG has budged on this issue. Because aside from this one (huge) flaw, it looks like a fabulous game.

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iamstryker wrote:

People don't like the rules of the game(how it was intended) and instead make their own rules. Says a lot about how many people feel about it.

Should these people leave the game if they don't like how it was intended?

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mibuwolf wrote:

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iamstryker wrote:

People don't like the rules of the game(how it was intended) and instead make their own rules. Says a lot about how many people feel about it.

Should these people leave the game if they don't like how it was intended?

according to hardcore players, yes.