Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

The looting system is not working, and has become the worst aspect of playing with others:

- Players with lag or who are further away from the item cannot pick it up faster that a person who is nearby.

- Players who split up miss out on any loot that drops elsewhere on the map.

- The current loot system promotes loot stealing and griefing, in any MMO that contains this players will not learn to cooperate or get along with each other, and will end up shunning playing in groups

- There are an increasing number of people in game that will kick and ignore you if you pick up loot that was assigned to someone else.

- Play in a group, and a mirror drops, but I cannot pick it up because someone else gets to it first. Play solo and a mirror drops, and its all mine. What is the incentive to grouping? The 50% increased quantity matters very little if a person cannot pick up any decent loot.

^ It would be really funny to be playing in a "no-ninja" party and watch everyone suddenly try to turn into super ninja if they saw something like a mirror drop.

In a random party, if a loot drop is good enough, someone will try to ninja it no matter how civil everyone was before that.

And yeah there's not really more loot in a group. It's more like watch people take your loot and just hope you get some of theirs in return.

I've seen several people die attempting to ninja somebody's drop. T'was delightful.

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iolanthe wrote:

I've seen several people die attempting to ninja somebody's drop. T'was delightful.

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End of line? :D

Gonna go watch Tron now.

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Bennyboy1337 wrote:

I just lost a Unique due to latency and who knows what other issues. Some of these larger parties with lots of minnion and mobs can get to be pretty laggy, I have two 580gtx's in SLI so my system isn't the problem. I can repeatedly click on the time and my character will just run to wherever the mouse clicked and I never pick up the item, even sometimes a simple barrel or other object in the way will block my character, and that is enough to loose the item.

Playing a ranged heavy class who is naturally not as fast at running I have a really hard time getting to items, I love playing in groups but I hate loosing all my gear to fast people that are there constantly picking up loot as soon as they get chance. I really hope they at-least add a few seconds to the timer if not give group leaders loot options. I don't understand why everyone is forced to play a free for all type of loot system, why can't leaders be given the option to decide how loot is divied up, would it really be that bad?

Yes, because options will make people happy, and happiness isn't hardcore enough for this game.

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tinghshi wrote:

Yes, because options will make people happy, and happiness isn't hardcore enough for this game.

Aha! You have become enlightened!

I hate to throw a dampener on my own cause, but I have very sincere doubts that we will ever see any form of instanced loot or even loot options in this game. The developers have a, to me at least, very flawed definition of the phrase 'cut throat feel' and happily go about mixing PvP elements into an otherwise PvE game. They actual do not seem to care what anyone except hardcore ex-Diablo fans think, nor do they seem to care if they lose potential customers because the game lacks, and actively discourages, the core of social gaming in the wider MMO community.

Thousands of posts over a year later, and the latest comments by anyone connected with GGG shows they are still talking timers ffs. Worse, if you read the comments by them, you will see that they actively promote what nearly any other game developer would call anti-social griefing behavior both with respect to the looting system and elsewhere.

Well, it is their game, it is their right. Those of us who wish to not take part in 'cut throat feel' aka 'griefer heaven' need to shut up and play solo. Or alternatively, form a large association outside of the game and play in groups only with like minded people. I say large association because of there are two leagues and many time zones to consider. Like that is a realistic option - so solo it is till boredom do us part.

The "free for all" loot method simply guarantees that I won't be grouping with people I don't know personally.

I simply don't find squabbling over loot to be a fun or productive way to spend my leisure time.

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Omnivore61 wrote:

Well, it is their game, it is their right. Those of us who wish to not take part in 'cut throat feel' aka 'griefer heaven' need to shut up and play solo. Or alternatively, form a large association outside of the game and play in groups only with like minded people. I say large association because of there are two leagues and many time zones to consider. Like that is a realistic option - so solo it is till boredom do us part.

After learning that orbs etc will drop in all difficulties, I'm currently debating rather or not to just re-roll a metric crapton of super low level characters to solo farm Act 1 Normal for items. It would probably be as fast as group farming on my level 64 witch but without the griefing.

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killbilly wrote:

Indisputable fact #3. Jay wilson got fired cause he tried the same thing. He tried to dictate what fun is for a player, he sayed that players do not know what fun is and that HE came to introduce us the term fun..

Well, from what i read Jay Wilson never got fired. He got hired to a new project.


And he left the Diablo name a broken down, watered down, dumbed down piece of shit..:D

Diablo 3 is almost and on-rail, arcade style kids game with an auction house.


I think comparing anyone from GGG to D3 devs is kind of insulting...lol

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

You work somewhere with that grammar? With everything you say I can hardly believe you're out of high school, or even then middle school.

yeah language attack..you know english is not the only language in the world ? also EU is not a country...(i bet you belong to the people that believe dont' it...)

you know that you lost the argument right? you know that you are full of BS right?
you know that i have already say that IL need more development time right?

how desperate to win are you guys...you cant' even get a fact straight