Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Nicholas_Steel wrote:

I have yet to say that FFA is Hardcore, all I've said is that it makes the game an adult game and not a kiddie game.

WTH??

Make "personal Loot" invisible until the timer runs out. Maybe this prevents people from camping around items. A timed out item suddenly appearing might even gain the "original owner" the extra second he needs to pick it up.

I have to admit, if the Loot system is the biggest complaint about this game then this game must be doing pretty awesomely.

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Nicholas_Steel wrote:

I have to admit, if the Loot system is the biggest complaint about this game then this game must be doing pretty awesomely.

yea..in loot hunting game..this is almost non issue..

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Garygolf wrote:

While I can't comment on the system prior to implementation, 2 seconds does not seem like enough time for a ranged character to get into place. This is most noteworthy on my Summoner. I generally always miss out on loot, and have taken to running it Solo-only. Too squishy to stay close, but too far away to grab anything.

2 seconds would mean, given any lag, a ranged character will still miss out.

Guess I'll just have to roll up Melee for parties.

This!!!

I miss a unique now becouse of this! i am a ranger
Must be a little longer the time!5/7 second...don't change the game!
FIX IT please..

and maibe...don't let others players see my loot till the time for reach the drop end!

the only problem i have with the loot system is when you party there is simply too much loot on the floor and clutters your screen (swapping loot off isn't always the wisest of choices when your loot can get stolen)

and this is why id prefer instanced loot, just so it is more manageable.

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Ushela wrote:

Current loot system is perfect.

Maybe for you. For others it's not, the evidence is this thread and many others that pop on this very subject.

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Ushela wrote:

The devs designed this game with the intention that looting WILL BE competitive.

I have no problem with competitions as long as they are not default league.
Default league should firstly be a enjoyable experience, most people game for fun and relaxation, not for competition.
This default league should be the magnet, the principal attraction of the game.
From all those new incoming players in default league, there will be some that will like to compete.
This is the reason for hardcore/cutthroat/races/etcetera. Competition leagues.
So dont confuse default league with competition leagues.
Besides, ffa will stay. We just want loot-options and this will not affect your ffa-style anyway.

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Ushela wrote:

If you dont like it you either need to get used to it, or play another game.

Wrong, there is the third option, which is for players/testers to give feedback for the devs.
So a change/alteration of the current system can be made.

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Ushela wrote:

Its not changing.

Yeah, because you know. You maybe are the lead dev. of the game hiding under that avatar of yours.
Just so you know, it already has changed with the addition of timers. Many aspects of the game have changed since the closedbeta started. I don't see why looting-system cannot take ammends.
And guess what, it will change, they already announced they are talking and looking for options regarding looting.
The game as a whole will be in constant changes over next 5-10 years ... so I'm pretty sure you are wrong when you say "Its not changing".

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Ushela wrote:

This game wasn't made to cater to "2013 gamers" who think loot is supposed to handed out freely..not even close. It was made by people FOR people that want the opposite. Why can't you people understand this?

bla bla bla, read the part about the competion again, maybe you understand before you ask others to understand.

I play with high latency and I have both a shadow and an archer.

With the shadow, you move in and out of mobs quickly and sometimes you just miss your drops by going out just when it drops.

The ranger is almost always out of range even with the higher timer.

And for both of them, I get the feeling I have to stop attacking and rush to my drops everytime I see a good drop for me. Sometimes you cant even analyse if you need it or not to see it getting robbed.

20-30 sec cooldown time is a much better option imo.

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Ushela wrote:

They arent going to change the core functions of the game.

Again, our opinions do not match.
To me, loot-system is not a core function of the game.
Especially in the default league, where should not be emphasis on the competition.
Agree, ffa in cuttthroat/races/etc.

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Ushela wrote:

Too many people supported this game with too much money to do that.

The way you say it is like those guys bribed the devs for ffa-only system.
Ofcourse that anyone who wanted to financially support the game has done it with no "compromises or blackmails". I'm sure the devs didn't take any money from anyone who tried to impose their personal views of the game.