Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:
Oh look, now these children are using the fact I called them morons...

Yeah, dude, keep going, you're doing a great job defending the current loot-system.
I'm sure when the devs will read your "thoughtful" "constructive" criticism they will sure say "man, the current system is so good that anyone who complains about it is a complete moron/child/whatever".
You're so naive that you didn't even realise that your post is pro-change, no pro-ffa ;)
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ManiaCCC wrote:
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:


Like I said, if you really want to play with others you can form a good group where people know your loot rules. Playing with random people is known to be terrible on every single game. So why would anyone do that anyway? Even if looting was changed, why would you play with random people?

And psychologically, it's realism, not my ego.


and if my friends are not online or are not playing PoE at all...am I screwed? I have to looking for a new friends evertyime I am online?? One thing..I had 5 friends playing this game..since open beta..none of the are playing it anymore..because of loot system..

It's really interesting that according your words..playing with random is always terrible.. I am sorry..but grouping in D3 or TL2 with strangers was very fun..

I understand that many people love current system.. so don't ignore this argument ..and try tell me.. WHY is bad to provide players options? As you can see, tons of players..and not just new players..supporters..even diamond supporters, long term beta testers, alpha testers, D2 veterans and basically players with very different backgrounds don't enjoy FFA looting.. it's not that hard to see why..so why don't make them happy? It wouldn't affect this hardcore crowd at all. So again..why you are so strong against loot options?


Not so much friends but people you know, people who handle loot the way you want to, and are decent at the game and won't get you killed. After a while you will have a list of people to play with when your friends aren't on. You could just solo too.
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:
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If the system is so perfect, why are you preaching workarounds? That doesn't make any sense at all.
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mobutu wrote:
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:
Oh look, now these children are using the fact I called them morons...

Yeah, dude, keep going, you're doing a great job defending the current loot-system.
I'm sure when the devs will read your "thoughtful" "constructive" criticism they will sure say "man, the current system is so good that anyone who complains about it is a complete moron/child/whatever".
You're so naive that you didn't even realise that your post is pro-change, no pro-ffa ;)


You know what's funny, I bet the devs would of thought the same thing when they read some of these whiny posts, they just can't say it because they have to be "professional" and don't want to make you cry any more than you're already doing. And the devs are clearly logical people, if they read my post they will just think "that makes sense" because it does to anyone that is capable of free thought.


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Sickness wrote:


If the system is so perfect, why are you preaching workarounds? That doesn't make any sense at all.


I never said it was perfect. I said it was a non-issue and it's not important, and I explained why it isn't important.
Last edited by oBLACKIECHANo#6895 on Feb 1, 2013, 6:16:09 AM
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:


Like I said, if you really want to play with others you can form a good group where people know your loot rules. Playing with random people is known to be terrible on every single game. So why would anyone do that anyway? Even if looting was changed, why would you play with random people?

And psychologically, it's realism, not my ego. Look up the definition or a moron, it's somebody with the mental age of a 10-12 year old child. And anyone that illogically whines about non-issues, I would say has the mental age of a 10-12 year old child. And the definition of a non-issue is something of such little importance that it should not become controversial. As I've explained, looting in public parties with random people is of very little importance.


seriously m8 stop posting you just

a) make it worst for the ffa-defence
b) repeating yourself with stupid claims
c) you try to explain us what moron and child is...no need we see you (you are the perfect example)

what is little importance for you doesnt' make it for the whole community...get a clue please (you force me to repeat myself also...but anyway)
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:
Playing with random people is known to be terrible on every single game. So why would anyone do that anyway?

erm ... because when you press S a "social" window opens and there you have a tab that says "public parties"? ;)

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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:
Even if looting was changed, why would you play with random people?

Why not? Maybe my "friends" or trusted people are not online at that moment, you know, everyone tends to have a different agenda.
Or maybe i really don't want to keep white/black lists, i dont want to police gamers, i'm here to play the game not to police countless numbers of people.
or, as i said above, because when you press S a "social" window opens and there you have a tab that says "public parties"?
etcetera
Last edited by mobutu#5362 on Feb 1, 2013, 6:22:05 AM
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:

I never said it was perfect. I said it was a non-issue and it's not important, and I explained why it isn't important.


Fair enough. But you only explained why it isn't important for YOU. It's an important issue for me and others.
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:
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ManiaCCC wrote:
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:


Like I said, if you really want to play with others you can form a good group where people know your loot rules. Playing with random people is known to be terrible on every single game. So why would anyone do that anyway? Even if looting was changed, why would you play with random people?

And psychologically, it's realism, not my ego.


and if my friends are not online or are not playing PoE at all...am I screwed? I have to looking for a new friends evertyime I am online?? One thing..I had 5 friends playing this game..since open beta..none of the are playing it anymore..because of loot system..

It's really interesting that according your words..playing with random is always terrible.. I am sorry..but grouping in D3 or TL2 with strangers was very fun..

I understand that many people love current system.. so don't ignore this argument ..and try tell me.. WHY is bad to provide players options? As you can see, tons of players..and not just new players..supporters..even diamond supporters, long term beta testers, alpha testers, D2 veterans and basically players with very different backgrounds don't enjoy FFA looting.. it's not that hard to see why..so why don't make them happy? It wouldn't affect this hardcore crowd at all. So again..why you are so strong against loot options?


Not so much friends but people you know, people who handle loot the way you want to, and are decent at the game and won't get you killed. After a while you will have a list of people to play with when your friends aren't on. You could just solo too.


Stop avoiding the question..
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Nicholas_Steel wrote:
The more options you have (Multiple timers) the more segregated the community is as you'll have players only playing with X timer, some only playing with Y timer and some playing with Z timer etc.

Adding an option to choose between Instanced and FFA loot means that the community is segregated in 3 ways. Those that play alone, those that play in a party with Instanced loot and those that Play in a party with FFA loot.


No, community is not segregated, Its still the same economy, the same chat etc
Its just that anyone is playing with the desired loot-system in place.
Last edited by mobutu#5362 on Feb 1, 2013, 6:27:36 AM
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Nicholas_Steel wrote:
Public parties is a means to achieving a desirable private party. Public parties aren't meant to be intentionally played for all time.

Public parties are public partie, nothing more nothing less.
So stop giving them another definition than the natural/obvious one.
Last edited by mobutu#5362 on Feb 1, 2013, 6:30:15 AM

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