Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Vooodu wrote:

FFA loot is like a open food buffet.

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TehHammer wrote:

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rustypup wrote:

Announcements:Our first week of Open Beta

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We have been internally discussing community feedback on topics such as looting options and damage displays.

Best news I've ever heard on the topic.

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lawjeek wrote:

I believe most people can appreciate the reasoning behind the current loot system, however it neither completely solves the issues(lag and positioning) nor remains true to FFA. Randomly assigning loot puts everyone at the mercy of that randomization. This is a big issue, because it essentially is loot assignment ALA dice. Yes, there is opportunity for that loot to be lost, but somebody gets an extreme advantage in retrieving it as well.

If you look at it from the perspective of 6 focused players with good internet connection/computers with a 'window of loot opportunity' that is enough time for an assigned player to get a drop first(which its supposed to be), then you essentially are assuring players drops, and more or less removing FFA. Also, in a normal FFA system if you are not paying attention for a moment and lose out on a drop, you still have equal opportunity to win all future loot, this however is no longer true in the middle ground system.

I played d2 forever, and love FFA loot systems and the inevitable highs and lows that come with it. My biggest issue with the FFA loot system in general is there is no room for relaxing when you play, and I can also see that as a positive as much as I see it as a negative. I enjoy FFA loot systems, but also would love the ability to relax and play with people I don't know.

IMO you should fully commit to one loot system or the other or perhaps offer both. Having both FFA loot, and fully assigned loot as group options would be a way to please everyone, but unfortunately I could see it leading to too little FFA being played.

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Vooodu wrote:

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Fycer wrote:

It's really weird to expect people to play together during battles, and suddenly try to screw everyone in order to get this shiny item that just dropped from a monster... and then become best friends few seconds after.

lol... Im sorry but you make that sound like alot of fun.

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mobutu wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

mobutu is so massively butthurt, this is quite amusing. Keep the tears coming.

typical, you cannot combat my arguments so you attack my forum user
keep trying dude, you're very good at it, proving my points ;)

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Xavderion wrote:

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mobutu wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

mobutu is so massively butthurt, this is quite amusing. Keep the tears coming.

typical, you cannot combat my arguments so you attack my forum user
keep trying dude, you're very good at it, proving my points ;)

I already wrote an answer regarding your arguments, but you just kept repeating them instead of giving a real response :)

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EwokVillage wrote:

mobutu is so massively butthurt, this is quite amusing. Keep the tears coming.
typical, you cannot combat my arguments so you attack my forum user
keep trying dude, you're very good at it, proving my points ;)

I already wrote an answer regarding your arguments, but you just kept repeating them instead of giving a real response :)

For me looting in group games in not VITAL to the games success.

It will appease a larger amount of people changing it slightly.
And if they do not. Oh well. Most of us just wont play in groups unless we have to (big boss runs).

The crazy thing is if it were the other way around, the FFA advocates wouldnt quit playing group games at all. In a sense they arent losing out on anything. Im not trying to speak for everyone but a majority of the Anti-FFA (so to say) would just NOT play groups. The other way around isnt so true

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your point? this is a online only game (i cant' play offline like TL2 for example)
as an online only game it is also multiplayer
as a multiplayer i should be ENCOURAGED to play with strangers (and eventually make ingame friends) and not DISCOURAGED

yes ofc we can play solo (and most already do) but if you play only solo you
a) do not want to look cool (=less shop purchased good)
b) feel bored faster and play less and less (= less need to "support" the game)
c) i play other single player games that look and feel 2013 games (= less need to "support" the game)

i only see con's in this situation not pro's

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Xavderion wrote:

I already wrote an answer regarding your arguments, but you just kept repeating them instead of giving a real response :)

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mobutu wrote:

-Loot belongs to the whole party
-party = 2-6 players/members

now, there are 2 different opinions:
-the nice persons, sportmans, gentlemans, a healthy social human being etc believe that, because the whole party (2-6 members) fought and defeated the horrible monsters, the whole loot should be shared by all members;
-the ninjas and thieves, who are hiding and justify their thievery-actions under the lame catchphrase "its not your loot 'till you pick it up", believe the whole loot should be theirs if they pick it up first, denying the rest of the party members of their rightfully share of the loot.

This a purpose of a team: members work together for the final win and then reap the benefits of winning together as a team.
Those party member that think otherwise and take all the benefits that resulted from the team winning just for themself are just thieves, cowards and selfish pricks.

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mobutu wrote:

dude, if you cannot understand a basic, simple concept of a team winning together and reaping the resulted benefits together (this is a FACT! btw) then you're just a lost individual.
I cant explain it to you lower that that ... its like you still don't understand 1+1=2