Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

keep trying dude, you're already on your failed attempt number 3 ...

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mobutu wrote:

no problem, i admit your criticism
in case you didnt notice, i'm also for loot-options.
Its just that it's really hard to talk to this religious-like-brainwashed-cult called "selfentitled-hardcore-pro-ffaers-whatever"
You have to really explain them that 1+1 equals 2.

I know.
I am starting to fall towards 1 of 2 options.

Have loot-options that the party leader can implement. that way NOONE can complain. They know what they are getting themselves into.

Or increase the radius at which items can be looted. Maybe the length of 3 friendlies. That way no amount of friendlies can body-block me from loot.

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mobutu wrote:

no problem, i admit your criticism
in case you didnt notice, i'm also for loot-options.
Its just that it's really hard to talk to this religious-like-brainwashed-cult called "selfentitled-hardcore-pro-ffaers-whatever"
You have to really explain them that 1+1 equals 2.

...Dude, its a FFA style game which the game devs have openly admitted. This is what they want.

If anyone should start doing the math around here its you.


Maybe this game just isn't for you.

But mocking and insulting everyone who loves the game for it being what it is. Including the game devs.

Well, good luck with that....lol

Announcements:Our first week of Open Beta

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We have been internally discussing community feedback on topics such as looting options and damage displays.

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Vooodu wrote:

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mobutu wrote:

-the ninjas and thieves, who are hiding and justify their thievery-actions under the lame catchphrase "its not your loot 'till you pick it up", believe the whole loot should be theirs if they pick it up first, denying the rest of the party members of their rightfully share of the loot.

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W T F is that supposed to mean?


So basically, anyone who enjoys FFA loot is a thief?


You, have a seriously warped point of view when it comes to this topic and the players who enjoy it.


BTW.. the actual "FACTS" of how loot works is on the 1st page of this thread. Maybe you should read it.

Is there any reason to enjoy FFA besides the one where you just want to deny a loot from your teammates?

Remember that FFA loot doesn't exist in solo, nor if a friendly game where you play with your friends and share the loot like normal and civilised people who want everyone to enjoy their time.

So, explain why trying to screw over some random dudes in a co-op playstyle is enjoyable, unless you're a thief/ninja-looter/jerk?

well, nobody is perfect, so logically the devs are not perfect.
i'm not some fanboy who blindly agree with all their choices/decisions.
Where i see fault i criticize.

And, imho, they fail with 2 problems:

1. the definitely announcement of no-wipes whatsoever in open-beta.
they are not pefect so they cannot balance an equation with so many variables. in time, problem will arrive, with the possibility that the default league will became some kind of a public toilet

2. the loot-system, obiously.

So i'll criticize them hoping they'll fix it.

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Fycer wrote:

Is there any reason to enjoy FFA besides the one where you just want to deny a loot from your teammates?

Remember that FFA loot doesn't exist in solo, nor if a friendly game where you play with your friends and share the loot like normal and civilised people who want everyone to enjoy their time.

So, explain why trying to screw over some random dudes in a co-op playstyle is enjoyable, unless you're a thief/ninja-looter/jerk?

....I don't have that kind of perception when it comes to FFA looting so i can't really answer it.

To me.

In public games, its just a war zone of battles followed by a feeding frezy on items after the battle.


Sometimes i get nothing and sometimes i score big.

I find that fun..

I don't waste time thinking about enititlement, thiefs, ninjas and all that garabage because i know the rules.

mobutu is so massively butthurt, this is quite amusing. Keep the tears coming.

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Vooodu wrote:

In public games, its just a war zone of battles followed by a feeding frezy on items after the battle.


Sometimes i get nothing and sometimes i score big.

I find that fun..

I don't waste time thinking about enititlement, thiefs, ninjas and all that garabage because i know the rules.

Except that in most games, it's not what you describe. The frenzy on items occurs during the battle.

For me, it's not about entitlement to anything more than my fair share. I get no joy out of getting less than that, nor do I get any joy from getting more than that. That is what I find fun.

If the game were to offer a non-FFA OPTION, then I could have my fun, and you could still have yours, no?