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the reality is that FOMOed people who say that they are "forced and pressured" to rush to endgame are jealous and want to ruin everyone's fun
I'm so thankful to not have the type of brain that thinks this is making a good point.
Nobody is jealous of your build guide copy-paste no skill required AoE clear.
They want a different game, you have no good counter points to the plethora that have been made here, so rather than deal with those points you want to go after the motivations of the people making their case in good faith.
So it's fair game to repay the favor. You only want AoE screen clear because you're bad at games. ~someone making a good point.
I'm not playing copypasted builds, brother. previous league I was 1 of 2 CWS PF on poe ninja, this league there were like 3 of us. completely homebrewn thus effective.
this league juicing is dead, so I dropped league 1 week after start because there's nothing to do already. no point in making giga mapper. there's no endgame. and look at retention rate of 3.27: i'm not alone.
why person who want to delete other people's fun from Path of Exile and turn this perfect ARPG into copypaste of no rest for the wicked (400 online players btw) or poe1 ruthless copy (I'm scared of thinking about its online numbers) type here provoking and flaming? chill
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Posted bySoColdO_O#1989on Nov 27, 2025, 10:42:16 AM
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Check statistics? yeah I can see how every poe 1 league takes a nosedive in player retention after a couple of weeks. The majority quits.
You can keep posting silly meme images, still doesn't change the fact that player retention in leagues is awful, and if GGG used actually used the zoom zoom gameplay as marketing material, people would think its some mobile game.
But if you are a person, who enjoys gameplay that requires zero effort, while watching netflix on a 2nd monitor. That's fine but just say that.
leagues filled with new content, loot and endgame-oriented (for instance Affliction) + large endgame expansions (ritual + echoes of the atlas) are loved by community and keep high retention rate. by slowing the game down and deleting endgame you gonna make retention rate worse, look at kalandra and expedition which were huge nerf fiestas.
another souls-like "hardcore" gamer talks about patterns etc. In "no rest for the wicked" the situation is completely different right? you do not PVP with white mobs who have 2-3 patterns? right? sanctum is bad, "no rest for the wicked" is good, that's what some "true hardcore streamer like asmongold" told me...
oh wauw who would have thought, when the playerbase who liked more methodical and slowed down gameplay has left years ago because it turned into zoom fiesta. And you are left with zoom addicts of course they are going to throw a tantrum when you take that away.
uhm yes clearly No Rest for the Wicked is different, enemies are way more reactive first of all. Some can even parry you. And it has proper Action combat with depth...
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Posted byZabanov#1474on Nov 27, 2025, 10:43:33 AM
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Even The OG of ARPG's David Brevik stated he disliked what modern ARGPS' have become.
on recent interview with GGG, Diablo 2 developers said that MF gear is absolutely OK and fits poe. if you wanna agree with every word of developers from 20 years ago, do it. give us juicy endgame with MF gear because D2 developers approved it.
- Conflating "every word D2 devs say" with overall play style of the game.
- Equivocating MF in D2 & PoE1 with how +rarity affects quantity of currency drops.
Your arguments leave much to be desired. When people read over this thread, they will be judging the issue based on the merits of the points being made.
Funny thing is Brevik literally stated that he found the whole screen clearing thing silly.
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Posted byZabanov#1474on Nov 27, 2025, 10:45:12 AM
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That goes two ways, brother. We don't want the game balanced to one-click clear while watching youtube gameplay.
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Posted byWhisperSlade#0532on Nov 27, 2025, 10:45:27 AM
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Even The OG of ARPG's David Brevik stated he disliked what modern ARGPS' have become.
on recent interview with GGG, Diablo 2 developers said that MF gear is absolutely OK and fits poe. if you wanna agree with every word of developers from 20 years ago, do it. give us juicy endgame with MF gear because D2 developers approved it.
- Conflating "every word D2 devs say" with overall play style of the game.
- Equivocating MF in D2 & PoE1 with how +rarity affects quantity of currency drops.
Your arguments leave much to be desired. When people read over this thread, they will be judging the issue based on the merits of the points being made.
what's the difference between MF in poe and in d2? That in poe1 we have extra juicing? Its even better then. You trade gear slots for drops because your build is strong and expensive. Fits the vision.
GGG already showed us that they are not going to support FOMOed casuals by 0.3 patch: hordes of monsters, great crafting and promised endgame buff in 0.4. I'm just having fun looking how casuals ask for nerfs and noloot. Wait for 4th december and be ready to cry and rage
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Posted bySoColdO_O#1989on Nov 27, 2025, 10:46:48 AM
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what's the difference between MF in poe and in d2?
We're discussing PoE2. MF in PoE1 is fine.
In PoE2, +rarity increases currency drops (value wise). Why do you think many people consider it mandatory in PoE2, but not in PoE1.
By the way, PoE1 used to have +quantity. They removed it.
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Posted byWhisperSlade#0532on Nov 27, 2025, 10:49:01 AM
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oh wauw who would have thought, when the playerbase who liked more methodical and slowed down gameplay has left years ago because it turned into zoom fiesta. And you are left with zoom addicts of course they are going to throw a tantrum when you take that away.
absolute cinema, not even seasonal game BTW:
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Posted bySoColdO_O#1989on Nov 27, 2025, 10:49:46 AM
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oh wauw who would have thought, when the playerbase who liked more methodical and slowed down gameplay has left years ago because it turned into zoom fiesta. And you are left with zoom addicts of course they are going to throw a tantrum when you take that away.
absolute cinema, not even seasonal game BTW:
Most of your arguments are not even making sense, non-sequiturs.
PoE1 is pure zoom style yet PoE2 has a higher player count than PoE1. I guess zoom is bad. Diablo 4 has enormous player numbers. I guess you think that's a better game.
What are you saying.
Also I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but being seasonal is exactly why PoE has inflated numbers right after a new league launch. Compare the end of league numbers.
Also, there are many more thing different about No Rest for the Wicked aside from the attrition combat.
You are starting with your conclusion (I like zoom) and working backwards to make your argument fit with that conclusion. Not very well, either.
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Posted byWhisperSlade#0532on Nov 27, 2025, 10:54:34 AM
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what's the difference between MF in poe and in d2?
We're discussing PoE2. MF in PoE1 is fine.
In PoE2, +rarity increases currency drops (value wise). Why do you think many people consider it mandatory in PoE2, but not in PoE1.
By the way, PoE1 used to have +quantity. They removed it.
its mandatory because there is no proper endgame juicing. and if you simply delete rarity, there won't be any loot at all. first let them make great endgame, then ask for balancing. by the way, rarity have strong diminishing returns both in poe1 and poe2 and there's no point in stacking a ton of it. In poe1 threshold is 500%, in poe2 much lower (no wonder people complaining about rarity don't know about diminishing returns). its easy to get 100% rarity in poe2 which already gives you a lot
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Posted bySoColdO_O#1989on Nov 27, 2025, 10:56:29 AM
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oh wauw who would have thought, when the playerbase who liked more methodical and slowed down gameplay has left years ago because it turned into zoom fiesta. And you are left with zoom addicts of course they are going to throw a tantrum when you take that away.
absolute cinema, not even seasonal game BTW:
you mean an indie game that is nowhere near completion, with limited unfinished content (alpha stage) has a low player count? :O what a shocker.
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Posted byZabanov#1474on Nov 27, 2025, 10:56:56 AM
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