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Removing utility and unique flasks (one of the most unique things that stood out when i first started poe).
The fact you're defending flask piano basically destroys any validity your opinions may have had.
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Posted byb_ko#7756on Dec 8, 2025, 4:29:36 PM
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Posted byBaggos#7448on Dec 9, 2025, 5:24:07 AM
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What is funny is that all of this is meaningless if no one plays your version of the game. At the end of the day, this is business.
They tried to make POE1 harder, slower, more meaningful.
It is called RUTHLESS.
And barely anyone plays it. It does not matter if zooming is bad or not, it is just one of playstyles players have. Most players prefer it, some don't - and actually ruthless is a proof of that.
it's a zoomer game with a zoomer community. the players don't care about it and pretty much no one is gonna get on poe 1 and just play ruthless. and poe 1 players are such zoomers they can't even stay on poe 1 for a long time. just check out the steam charts.
and stripping down all the contents of a zoomer game doesn't magically turn it into a good methodical game. a good game has to be built from the ground up with a specific intention. ruthless just feels like something cheap and not cared about, which is what it is lol. it's literally just less loot and less power from passives/ascendancy or whatever, which of course will feel horrible for both zoomers and methodical players. its the worst of both worlds...
ruthless being unpopular is therefore a terrible example of what you're trying to communicate and is not proof of what you're saying.
edit: i also want to add i don't think we should be okay with things like the over consumption of mcdonalds in our society. all these extremely toxic ways of living that people try to propagate as "just another preference like pineapples on pizza" is destroying society from the inside out. just analyzing zoomer gameplay at its most fundamental level and taking a brief look at the psychological effects that makes that type of content appealing turns out to be the exact same thing as mcdonalds and coca cola and vaping and gambling and microtransactions and all this other junk ppl are addicted to, you name it. it's factually degenerate lol. but w/e
Ruthless was cared about at the launch, even got separate patch notes, but of course if you wish to discard it because it is not good for your argument that is fine.
About mcdonalds (and other addiction). It actually quite funny that you compare it to something you can't quit and then in the same comment you imply that zoomers cant even play too long. So what is it? Please, make you mind.
And if you compare zoom gameplay to the very unhealthy and dangerous stuff, please, have some evidence to back you claims up otherwise it is worth nothing, as much as the arguments of the author this thread. His dislike of zooming does not make zooming bad or wrong. It is a matter of preference. If I want ambitious gameplay I play an ambitious game, if I want to relax and blast maps, I turn on POE1 and do just that.
I am not saying that ambitious gameplay does not have place in POE2 or even POE1, but grinding implies doing something over and over and over, so no surprise players want as little friction as possible.
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Removing utility and unique flasks (one of the most unique things that stood out when i first started poe).
The fact you're defending flask piano basically destroys any validity your opinions may have had.
Bold statement.
Instilling Orbs may disagree with it. Even better, Mageblood may even say it is silly.
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Partying is not fun. It's dopamine FOMO.
[1] "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793
[2] Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill (Build Theorycrafting) exists on a spectrum.: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605 Last edited by nagisanzeninzz#2697 on Dec 9, 2025, 7:36:25 AM
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Posted bynagisanzeninzz#2697on Dec 9, 2025, 6:50:50 AMOn Probation
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so true.. zoom zoom style is antique..at least meant for more simple games..like vampire survivors...and where there is not much room for other interactions because of speed issues
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Posted byJohnBlackstar#2650on Dec 9, 2025, 10:49:41 AM
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Posted byKotrr#0849on Dec 9, 2025, 11:26:04 AM
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Removing utility and unique flasks (one of the most unique things that stood out when i first started poe).
The fact you're defending flask piano basically destroys any validity your opinions may have had.
Based off your profile you've never played poe1. They have a currency item where you never have to press any of your flasks
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Posted byDmo90#6022on Dec 9, 2025, 11:31:00 AM
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