Jonathan was right, CHALLENGE IS REQUIRED to have fun

OP: ignore the vocal haters. Me and thousands of people agree with you.

We’re just less vocal here because we’re busy enjoying the game 👍
I played Last Epoch today and I requested a refund on steam. Monsters smell my stench and die.
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xSiLix1#2320 wrote:
I played Last Epoch today and I requested a refund on steam. Monsters smell my stench and die.


LE is not fun. Even later in the game when monsters are tough if you don't have a meta build or great gear its not fun. It lacks the same endgame depth as poe2.
There are chase items in LE but they're not incremental. Everytime ive played everything was locked behind around the same levels of corruption so all of your real endgame build upgrades happen very rapidly if you dont give up early.
nailed it...LE is way too casual of a game for me. Zero challenge,and player decisions mean nothing. Its not a bad game, its just meant for people that arent good at games like path of exile. It takes you a couple of days to clear all the content, and none of it provides any level of challenge, or exitement.

If d4, d3, and LE already exist to cater to the casual gamers demographic that want everything to be easy, and brainless, then they should play those games, instead of trying to strong arm GGG developers into making this game just like them.

LE's selling point right now is "it makes you feel like a genius, even if youre a retard".

Too dumb or impatient for path of exile 2 early access? Try last epoch or diablo 4. They are developing poe 2 to be different than other ARPGs, for people that want a different experience than the others. Not everyone needs to be catered to.
To everyone saying how LE's challenge starts at endgame... How about this - I don't want to play a game where I'm expected to go through an entire campaign before it "gets good". Does anyone truly accept that a game should start at endgame?

These aren't MMOs where your character stays relevant for 10+ years.
Last edited by Stryfer#0953 on Apr 18, 2025, 3:47:13 PM
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Stryfer#0953 wrote:
To everyone saying how LE's challenge starts at endgame... How about this - I don't want to play a game where I'm expected to go through an entire campaign before it "gets good". Does anyone truly accept that a game should start at endgame?

These aren't MMOs where your character stays relevant for 10+ years.


Campaign skip like d3 and d4 arent good either. Farming dungeons from lvl1+ then all endgame basically being dungeons is not fun.

Poe1 has campaign and dozens of mechanics you can farm in a ton of different ways. Also there are parts in the campaign that are impactful.

Poe2 should add time lost jewels to lower level sehkemas (unless theyre already there and i havent seen them) after all poe1 lab has gem thing at the end
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Campaign skip like d3 and d4 arent good either. Farming dungeons from lvl1+ then all endgame basically being dungeons is not fun.


You misunderstand, I'm not advocating for skipping the campaign. I mean I want to already feel like I'm playing from Act 1, which I do in PoE2.

This was in response to the posters defending LE by saying the challenge is in endgame. If you're not engaged from the start, I'd call that bad game design where half the content likely serves no purpose other than padding.


You obviously haven't spent much time in Last Epoch. One day of playing you come back with hot takes.

I'm not here to defend the game but the difficulty ramps up in the end game not so much the campaign.
Well some people hate the poe1 campaign and i enjoy the flow and steady power creep of it. I play hc though, if you didnt somewhat enjoy the campaign you would quit very fast.

Last epoch campaign is like a phone game. i cant do it anymore. i think ive done it 4x now and its just terrible.

How poe1 got everything close to perfect (outside of melee balance for a long time) then poe2 got the treatment it did. Its very odd to me.
but there are no challenge now and no customization at all. All builds are forced. Barely.. most of them

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