This needs to be FIXED IMMEDIATELY

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I have never used pause and reset in poe2. Mostly because I play on console and the input and response time isn't as fast but I do think removing it would be a good thing. I dont think most of these streamers and top rank players would actually be nearly as good as they think they are if they actually died because of mistakes.


For sure, the ability to pause because of stuff happening outside of the game is awesome.

And you are right, most of them are not nearly as good as they think they are.
Compare how they boss in PoE1 with, idk... someone else.
They go in and often need to log out macro because of a mistake or "dangerous" situation, while other ppl go in and just defeat the boss in one go.

I know, they will say "but SC players play glass canons bla", sure... some do.
And some play HC builds in SC like I do. It's not a build issue...
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And after that, thats the same "HC" players who complain about some ennemies than can just one shot you.

But how could you kill HC players who paused and logged out, without a one shot hit ? :D


Personnaly, I totally understand the 1rst post. For me, its like discovering half of players of escape from tarkov are cheating. How can my performance as a non cheater could be respected, if almost everybody are cheating.

Personnaly, I have more respect for SSF players than HC players. Because for me, almost all HC players are cheating !!
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loved playing hc back in the days. Never used an alt f4 macro. I died, it was ok, i tried again. Then there were mechanics getting into the game with mines. One shots out of nowhere. I stopped playing hc, because death became rng. Today...hc is mostly a streamer thing, because it triggers "followers" to watch...seeing them quitting over the menue is so pathetic and ridiculous. This is HC SC. Have fun with it.
Logout macro is so lame and means there is no real HC in poe. Respawn at checkpoint does the same thing. The only way to leave a map should be to portal out or to die, nothing else. They could bring back portals in boss fights I guess if they made these changes, if you can pull off the 5 seconds cast then good luck.
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Logout macro is so lame and means there is no real HC in poe. Respawn at checkpoint does the same thing. The only way to leave a map should be to portal out or to die, nothing else. They could bring back portals in boss fights I guess if they made these changes, if you can pull off the 5 seconds cast then good luck.


Ppl would set up the portal before starting the fight. Was this way in PoE1.
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tbf unless you have a macro (totaly lame) or have your finger glued to the pause it's not that big of an issue. I mean i keep dieing in HC this have save me maybe 1% of my death lol, you die so fast ... :D
As a newcomer, I always found this trick profoundly weird. Like, you are in hardcore, but you keep closing your game because you're dying and do not want to start back down the ladder? I get the idea, but it feel like it defeat the whole hardcore purpose.

The harder question is... what is the solution? Being able to pause the game is required no matter the league you play, not losing the map just because you got disconnected or a power shortage is also required. So again, what is the solution here?

One thing I know is that I don't know what the solution is.
Basically anything "hardcore" players say is immediately ignored by me. In 0.1 hardcore players were the only guys that used all 6 portals, think about that. Everyone else got 1 try at a map they got 6.

Real hardcore - No pause, no trade, no sharing stash and no migration. Your hardcore guy dies and the character is erased will all the gear.

POE hardcore - You relog, no xp loss, full access to trade and bypass standard mechanics. Never lose loot....

They should call it what it is, cheezy peezy mode for guys who think "hardcore" lives up to its name in POE. It never has been and never will be "hardcore". It has been a meme forever in POE. GGG may as well implement an auto log feature for when the players reach low life/es.

Reality check - if you cheat log once in your HC playthough your character died. Just play trade and stop kidding yourself you are good.
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As a newcomer, I always found this trick profoundly weird. Like, you are in hardcore, but you keep closing your game because you're dying and do not want to start back down the ladder? I get the idea, but it feel like it defeat the whole hardcore purpose.

The harder question is... what is the solution? Being able to pause the game is required no matter the league you play, not losing the map just because you got disconnected or a power shortage is also required. So again, what is the solution here?

One thing I know is that I don't know what the solution is.


There is literally no solution from the developer side.
Like you said, a pause function is needed for outside reasons, a function to protect ppl when disconnected is needed too.

The only way would be... that these HC players actually play hardcore and stop using the log out macro/pause function to avoid stuff in the game.

And sure, if you play for yourself (HCSSF) - it doesn't affect anyone else.
But races are normally in HCSSF where everyone is competing with each other, and these players abuse the log out macro/pause there too, so... y... no real competition unless you like to avoid the game while playing the game.
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Basically anything "hardcore" players say is immediately ignored by me. In 0.1 hardcore players were the only guys that used all 6 portals, think about that. Everyone else got 1 try at a map they got 6.

Real hardcore - No pause, no trade, no sharing stash and no migration. Your hardcore guy dies and the character is erased will all the gear.

POE hardcore - You relog, no xp loss, full access to trade and bypass standard mechanics. Never lose loot....

They should call it what it is, cheezy peezy mode for guys who think "hardcore" lives up to its name in POE. It never has been and never will be "hardcore". It has been a meme forever in POE. GGG may as well implement an auto log feature for when the players reach low life/es.

Reality check - if you cheat log once in your HC playthough your character died. Just play trade and stop kidding yourself you are good.


That's funny. I say the same thing for years now.

HC, how most HC andy's play it, is actually the real softcore experience.
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