5 hours of t15 juiced maps today alone, 70% MF and not 1 single drop worthwhile

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rhorains#6760 wrote:

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Legoury#0138 wrote:

People are just comparing too much from others.

Just play the game, dont compare it to videos of non life players and just think about something after few hours playing : "did I improve ?"
You could improve the way you play, change your build, have upgrade a gem, found a better stuff, crafted some stuff and enhanced what you already carry, play a harder content,...

It would feel you better just to play and think like that !!!

goated post!! so many people think the problem is with the game(s) they play, rather than their own personal faults - expectations, delayed gratification, appreciation of what is, making fun from what exists rather than what you wish or believe should exist. most people want to skip right to dessert line and pretend they won't get sick.

remember - we were less than ONE WEEK into the league when people already complain, where's my perfect jeweler, where's my broken gear xd. I suspect they are victims of comparison being the thief of joy, seriously, can't have fun unless I'm number one mentality.

You do realise that this is a game right? Something to be enjoyed? If people quit after 2-7 days after the launch then the game is not fun. Games are supposed to be fun. You are in a minority and Im not sure it is a healthy one.

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herrofattbar#3226 wrote:

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rhorains#6760 wrote:

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Legoury#0138 wrote:

People are just comparing too much from others.

Just play the game, dont compare it to videos of non life players and just think about something after few hours playing : "did I improve ?"
You could improve the way you play, change your build, have upgrade a gem, found a better stuff, crafted some stuff and enhanced what you already carry, play a harder content,...

It would feel you better just to play and think like that !!!

goated post!! so many people think the problem is with the game(s) they play, rather than their own personal faults - expectations, delayed gratification, appreciation of what is, making fun from what exists rather than what you wish or believe should exist. most people want to skip right to dessert line and pretend they won't get sick.

remember - we were less than ONE WEEK into the league when people already complain, where's my perfect jeweler, where's my broken gear xd. I suspect they are victims of comparison being the thief of joy, seriously, can't have fun unless I'm number one mentality.

You do realise that this is a game right? Something to be enjoyed? If people quit after 2-7 days after the launch then the game is not fun. Games are supposed to be fun. You are in a minority and Im not sure it is a healthy one.

Some numbers.

A game that almost every PoE1 streamers seem to like so much is Last Epoch. (from steam)

LE at launch : 264k players
LE after 1 month : 80k players

70% of players left LE after 1 month


PoE2 at launch (of EA) : 578k
PoE2 after 1 month (of EA) : 336k

42% of players left PoE2 after 1 month


AS Jonathan said yesterday, despite hundreds of spammers here that complain about the game, the game still has the best "retention" among other such video games !!!

goated post!! so many people think the problem is with the game(s) they play, rather than their own personal faults - expectations, delayed gratification, appreciation of what is, making fun from what exists rather than what you wish or believe should exist. most people want to skip right to dessert line and pretend they won't get sick.

remember - we were less than ONE WEEK into the league when people already complain, where's my perfect jeweler, where's my broken gear xd. I suspect they are victims of comparison being the thief of joy, seriously, can't have fun unless I'm number one mentality.[/quote]

You do realise that this is a game right? Something to be enjoyed? If people quit after 2-7 days after the launch then the game is not fun. Games are supposed to be fun. You are in a minority and Im not sure it is a healthy one. [/quote]

Some numbers.

A game that almost every PoE1 streamers seem to like so much is Last Epoch. (from steam)

LE at launch : 264k players
LE after 1 month : 80k players

70% of players left LE after 1 month


PoE2 at launch (of EA) : 578k
PoE2 after 1 month (of EA) : 336k

42% of players left PoE2 after 1 month


AS Jonathan said yesterday, despite hundreds of spammers here that complain about the game, the game still has the best "retention" among other such video games !!![/quote]

I sure hope for PoE2's future that those numbers are accurate. Not one person I have spoken who to on my friends list enjoys the game after 0.2. Many streamers who even gets paid to play this game(not by GGG) does not enjoy it and has been vocal about it. Im not sure where those people who enjoy this game in its current state exist but I sure hope they buy mictrotransactions.

I have probably 2000+ hours in PoE1 and I will not touch PoE 2 until v1.0. It just isn't fun and I know many of you do not care. But I have bought mictrotransactions for +500$ and I hope all of you who are defending this game right now have done the same to support PoE2 in its development.

My biggest gripe with the game right now is there is NO drops. Sometimes rares drop NOTHING, sometimes a blue.

It feels awesome. It's incredibly hard to save up currency and progress when your not playing 20 hours a day like these streamers.

If we are going to go by the numbers:

PoE 2 on release: 578,562

PoE 2 one week after a big content update: 204,068


A solid 65% drop in players. See how easy it is to bring up embarrassing numbers?

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

If we are going to go by the numbers:

PoE 2 on release: 578,562

PoE 2 one week after a big content update: 204,068


A solid 65% drop in players. See how easy it is to bring up embarrassing numbers?

I was just about to reply with the same thing. Thank you for not being disingenuous! Seems so many people on these forums are just that. They like not having fun.

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Legoury#0138 wrote:

Some numbers.

A game that almost every PoE1 streamers seem to like so much is Last Epoch. (from steam)

LE at launch : 264k players
LE after 1 month : 80k players

70% of players left LE after 1 month


PoE2 at launch (of EA) : 578k
PoE2 after 1 month (of EA) : 336k

42% of players left PoE2 after 1 month


AS Jonathan said yesterday, despite hundreds of spammers here that complain about the game, the game still has the best "retention" among other such video games !!!

Some numbers.

"Last Epoch" had in season 1 (Feb. 2024) a player peak of 258,503 and an avg of 54,475.
"Last Epoch" had one month later a player peak of 226,133 and an avg of 81,154.
That means, LE had a 49% gain of players (avg) and had a loss of 32,370 players (peak).
How many ppl will return for season 2 will be seen in 3 days.

"Path of Exile 2" had on EA start (Dec. 2024) a player peak of 578,562 and an avg of 304,199.
"Path of Exile 2" had one month later a player peak of 353,966 and an avg of 190,494.
That means, PoE2 had a 37% loss of players (avg) and a loss of 274,363 players (peak).
How many ppl returned to PoE2? Well...
PoE1 EA start - peak 578,562
PoE1 season 1 - peak 245,870
That's around 50% not returning, and believe me, many use PoE2 atm as a waiting room for LE.

Sure. Jonathan says a lot, but how true it is... we will see.
If you want, remember me to asses the numbers again when LE season 2 release and let's look how great the player retention for PoE2 is.
You know, there wasn't such a huge drop in... forever... for PoE/GGG.
You would think that would make them think.

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Legoury#0138 wrote:

Some numbers.

A game that almost every PoE1 streamers seem to like so much is Last Epoch. (from steam)

LE at launch : 264k players
LE after 1 month : 80k players

70% of players left LE after 1 month


PoE2 at launch (of EA) : 578k
PoE2 after 1 month (of EA) : 336k

42% of players left PoE2 after 1 month


AS Jonathan said yesterday, despite hundreds of spammers here that complain about the game, the game still has the best "retention" among other such video games !!!

Why would you take statistics from poe2's launch??? The launch version of the game is night and day difference to 0.2.0

If we're talking purely steam chart stats, 0.2.0 peaked at less than half of that - 245k active players on April 7th. Just a day later and throughout the rest of the next week, they game has moved down to 180k-200k active players per day, and just last night (for the West) poe2 hit its all time low since 0.2.0 launch with a whopping 85k active players.

I'm extremely concerned with those that are championing this new version of the game. It's so obvious if you've played more than 200-300 hours of poe2 so far that this patch is an absolute joke compared to the last. GGG has taken a dark turn. Have you seen the reviews of the game all over the internet? It was horrendous. They needed to have multiple interviews and already 4 big patches (0.2.0e), and way more hotfixes with it to save it.

Refusing to accept the obvious reality of poe2's terrible current state, and making excuses left and right while actively avoiding to talk the hard talk about what's wrong with the game; THAT will mislead the devs and lead them to ruin. Mark my words. Remove your emotional ties and be constructive for the sake of the devs livelihoods (jobs), and give them your full honest shake of the game. I do not care if it has an "early access" label on it. A game is not immune to criticisms just because of that, it would be foolish to say such a thing.

"oh but its early access!" - "skill issue!" - "the loud minority!"

^^^that is the kind of excuses I'm talking about. That will doom the devs and playerbase with it

Thank you about the clarification of numbers. I also feel like many used 0.2 as a waiting room for LE.

To add on that pile, I havent really given LE much time in the past but this time I will. The delay of 3.26 and the phrecia ”league” which they messed up with the idols (in my opinion) plus 0.2 being in this state has made me starved for arpgs.

And the fact that GGG made LE move their launch because of 0.2 made me so pissed on GGG that I will play LE just out of spite.

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smokesnugsYT#7752 wrote:

DISCLAIMER: I have over 600+ hours in POE2. I put 500+ hours into the earlier iterations before 0.2.0 alone.




Currency drop rate is atrocious, I can't even keep a decent stock of regals to rare my maps,

Exalts are constantly depleted trying to make the garbage that drops on the ground worth while but every single time it ends up being a bricked garbage item with worthless stats, I've put at LEAST 100 exalts into gear that has been sold to the vendors.

I am almost level 90 and have been mapping non-stop since around lvl 65 or so.. and I have not gotten a SINGLE good drop.


Each map has like 10 rares that I can find, and a large majority of the time those rares drop NOTHING. Something is off with the loot, some rares are literally only dropping GOLD. THATS IT. GOLD.


I am not sure wth is going on , but It didn't seem nearly this bad in the earlier iterations of POE2 before 0.2.0


Oh but those new runes you all put in? Got about 500 of those.


Even on cleansed maps with towers that increase Rarity, Azmeri wisp makes an elite empowered? Oh guess what, it drops total crap, if anything at all.



Is this the vision? Absolutely no reward for maximum effort?

I agree that the loot is bad, but did you try to disable loot filter? Only gold drops comment may be related to that.