5 hours of t15 juiced maps today alone, 70% MF and not 1 single drop worthwhile

Here is my take on this matter and please don't hate me for my opinion. (Englsih not my first language)

Yes, I think the loot is bad compare to last league which was WAY over-tuned but it is not to the point where you can't make any money, I don't rely on big drops anymore. I literally made 16 div yesterday with none of those BIG drops from mapping such as 10div from strongbox, lvl20 gem etc. Hell, I haven't even seen one Greater or Perfect Jeweller's Orb from my entire gameplay in 0.2 patch and I have to buy both of them for my LSpear and LLance.

My LS amazon is currently 92 and I only have 87% rarity. I get around 2-5EX drop per maps and no, I don't juice my maps at all beside putting tablets because I like to do Breach, Expedition or Deli. At some point I don't even bother to alchemy my map and just transmutation it then start mapping, yet I still made over 10div a day. There are things to farm rather than waiting for a BIG drop that might never happen.

The way I do it is to farm the stone, iron, copper citadel. This patch makes it so easy because it high-light their location on your map far away and you had to do is to branch out instead of stay in one place all the time. These citadel drops Fragments to let you fight the burning monolith but you shouldn't fight him unless you like to gamble. I sold every fragments that I farm from citadel. ANCIENT FRAGMENT= 97EX, FADED=50EX, WEATHERED=65EX.

You don't even need to alchemy the map since it's a guarantee drop, sometimes it even drop 2 fragments from my transmutation map. Farming expedition logbooks and sell them are also profitable, just make sure you get the Extreme Archaeology on skill tree.

My conclusion/advise for new players: STOP RELYING ON RNG BIG DROPS AND START FARMING THINGS THAT CAN ACTULLY SELL FOR MONEY. I always hear players says: Div never drop in my maps and I don't have money to buy anything and my reactions are pretty much "Wait, div can drop in maps?". Hope this helps some of you get rich like I did.

I feel like they changed what MF affects it feels odd.

fully juiced map, in reach of 2 towers, both towers with 3 tablets pumping that MF -> lots of uniques and rares, but barely any currency

one round later: blue map, not in range of anything. zero mf boost.
-> 1 divine and several exalts

MF on my gear is laffable

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smokesnugsYT#7752 wrote:

DISCLAIMER: I have over 600+ hours in POE2. I put 500+ hours into the earlier iterations before 0.2.0 alone.




Currency drop rate is atrocious, I can't even keep a decent stock of regals to rare my maps,

Exalts are constantly depleted trying to make the garbage that drops on the ground worth while but every single time it ends up being a bricked garbage item with worthless stats, I've put at LEAST 100 exalts into gear that has been sold to the vendors.

I am almost level 90 and have been mapping non-stop since around lvl 65 or so.. and I have not gotten a SINGLE good drop.


Each map has like 10 rares that I can find, and a large majority of the time those rares drop NOTHING. Something is off with the loot, some rares are literally only dropping GOLD. THATS IT. GOLD.


I am not sure wth is going on , but It didn't seem nearly this bad in the earlier iterations of POE2 before 0.2.0


Oh but those new runes you all put in? Got about 500 of those.


Even on cleansed maps with towers that increase Rarity, Azmeri wisp makes an elite empowered? Oh guess what, it drops total crap, if anything at all.



Is this the vision? Absolutely no reward for maximum effort?

I would say if your pumping exalts at your maps to get 6 mods, you are likely to run net negative, i.e. spending time to make yourself poorer.

I have 160% rarity, and I barely make any income from the maps. I had 1 divine drop in like 100+ maps.

In 0.1 I had 5 divines drop in 30 maps.

Ok, I mean this is a trade league, and currency being more rare means things cost less in currency.. having more currency would just drive inflation up.

But then there is no crafting, nobody crafts, no good items drop on the floor. I picked hundreds of Tier 5 items (thanks to rarity), and 99% of them were vendored immediately.

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GODOFWARSANCHEZ#4574 wrote:

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smokesnugsYT#7752 wrote:

DISCLAIMER: I have over 600+ hours in POE2. I put 500+ hours into the earlier iterations before 0.2.0 alone.




Currency drop rate is atrocious, I can't even keep a decent stock of regals to rare my maps,

Exalts are constantly depleted trying to make the garbage that drops on the ground worth while but every single time it ends up being a bricked garbage item with worthless stats, I've put at LEAST 100 exalts into gear that has been sold to the vendors.

I am almost level 90 and have been mapping non-stop since around lvl 65 or so.. and I have not gotten a SINGLE good drop.


Each map has like 10 rares that I can find, and a large majority of the time those rares drop NOTHING. Something is off with the loot, some rares are literally only dropping GOLD. THATS IT. GOLD.


I am not sure wth is going on , but It didn't seem nearly this bad in the earlier iterations of POE2 before 0.2.0


Oh but those new runes you all put in? Got about 500 of those.


Even on cleansed maps with towers that increase Rarity, Azmeri wisp makes an elite empowered? Oh guess what, it drops total crap, if anything at all.



Is this the vision? Absolutely no reward for maximum effort?

I would say if your pumping exalts at your maps to get 6 mods, you are likely to run net negative, i.e. spending time to make yourself poorer.

I have 160% rarity, and I barely make any income from the maps. I had 1 divine drop in like 100+ maps.

In 0.1 I had 5 divines drop in 30 maps.

Ok, I mean this is a trade league, and currency being more rare means things cost less in currency.. having more currency would just drive inflation up.

But then there is no crafting, nobody crafts, no good items drop on the floor. I picked hundreds of Tier 5 items (thanks to rarity), and 99% of them were vendored immediately.

U are not totally wrong.
But the prices going up. Not because of normal players or semi Fast players.
The prices go up, because of the Maprushers ( At map in 1 Day ) and
Pricefixer, that make profit of meta builds. And because we got only 1 Meta buld ( Lightning spear ) , averyone is fixing the Prices into the moon.

t1 - t5map worthy items ( Progress related ) , are worht 40 - 60ex or sometimes 1-3 Divine.
I am talking about rings, belts, Shoes , with only 25 % to 30% Resistance life, and some attack ( 20 ish ).


But that means also a Wall for everyone on low tier maps and people are getting into Maps, this week. They cant afford anything, and the marked will be out of of reach for them.

Normally there is an overflow on items, and the market get cheaper. But because of 1 Meta build - everything is harder for players , using this kind of build.

U are forced to play seomething else - But the prices of Armours, Rings, Amulets, will be extremly high, for 1 or 2 more Weeks.

I think that devs want us buy currency from other sites for real money, with that trade, devs gaining an extra money from these sites. Honestly I quit alongside this ridicolous currency drop rate (I think equal to 1%) still. We payed you GGG for hear our feedback and fix the game, not for pay extra money for currency into other sites.

Hope they understand and fix it soon.

I can't even juice anything because, you know, I need to find the fucking corruptions first. So many hours spent just exploring the damn Atlas and I am not even half done. NOT EVEN HALF

First of all: I still think that MF on gear is bad game design.

This time it seems to at least not work - thats good.

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But this is a league where i dont feel the "urge" to play this one more map. i have really really many maps and my pilfering says i collected 31 EX and 2 DIV on total.

That just isnt enough to keep me on the hook. when i yet again spend a whole night on getting NOTHING it is one step closer to quit.


To be fair - tomorrow will be my last day i guess as thank god i get an alternative on Thursday.

POE2 - Dawn of the Hunt. Probably the best thing that could happen to Last Epoch.

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ScandiDiver#0604 wrote:

"

Mini_619#2021 wrote:

Here is my take on this matter and please don't hate me for my opinion. (Englsih not my first language)

Yes, I think the loot is bad compare to last league which was WAY over-tuned but it is not to the point where you can't make any money, I don't rely on big drops anymore. I literally made 16 div yesterday with none of those BIG drops from mapping such as 10div from strongbox, lvl20 gem etc. Hell, I haven't even seen one Greater or Perfect Jeweller's Orb from my entire gameplay in 0.2 patch and I have to buy both of them for my LSpear and LLance.

My LS amazon is currently 92 and I only have 87% rarity. I get around 2-5EX drop per maps and no, I don't juice my maps at all beside putting tablets because I like to do Breach, Expedition or Deli. At some point I don't even bother to alchemy my map and just transmutation it then start mapping, yet I still made over 10div a day. There are things to farm rather than waiting for a BIG drop that might never happen.

The way I do it is to farm the stone, iron, copper citadel. This patch makes it so easy because it high-light their location on your map far away and you had to do is to branch out instead of stay in one place all the time. These citadel drops Fragments to let you fight the burning monolith but you shouldn't fight him unless you like to gamble. I sold every fragments that I farm from citadel. ANCIENT FRAGMENT= 97EX, FADED=50EX, WEATHERED=65EX.

You don't even need to alchemy the map since it's a guarantee drop, sometimes it even drop 2 fragments from my transmutation map. Farming expedition logbooks and sell them are also profitable, just make sure you get the Extreme Archaeology on skill tree.

My conclusion/advise for new players: STOP RELYING ON RNG BIG DROPS AND START FARMING THINGS THAT CAN ACTULLY SELL FOR MONEY. I always hear players says: Div never drop in my maps and I don't have money to buy anything and my reactions are pretty much "Wait, div can drop in maps?". Hope this helps some of you get rich like I did.

This comment are just straight up tone deaf, you are delusional living in a little no life elitist bubble. There´s absolutely no excuse for players to have as little progression as described in the topic just because they did the "wrong" content.

To get to the point you are at i highly doubt you have a full time job, or any life at all outside playing games. A games progression can´t be measured by the standard of people that no-life a game playing pretty much 24/7 while try harding to play the top 1% broken build and season mechanics.

Newsflash for you! Majority of gamers are casual gamers that have lives and neither can spend hours every day watching content and reading up on the latest most efficient broken end-game mechanics or can no-life and play the hours required to utilize it even if they did.

A game that have a bad casual experience are a dead game, no game will survive on only hardcore no life players since they are such a small minority of overall gamers.

A game made like that will get so extremely low player base it will die and neither no lifers or casuals can enjoy the game.

Ok, since we are going this route and you're going to be rude then lets go.

1: Delusional living in a little no life elitist bubble, To get to the point you are doubt you have a full time job.

I do have a full time job and its fucking Sunday. I said I made over 10 div YESTERDAY, which was Sunday (It's Monday now in my area. So I can't play the game whole day on my weekend "the only day I don't have to work?

2: How the F is lvl 92 on DAY 10 and making 10 div+ on Sunday is in the no life elitist bubble? Have you not seen what the real no life elitist bubble looks like on Youtube? look at fubgun, hundreds of div in one build and just leveled his new deadeye character to lvl 92 in just ONE DAY (YES, LVL 1 to 92 in just one fking day). And yet I'm the one in the no life elitist bubble who took 10 days to get to lvl 92? At this point you are just bad at the game, stop projecting yourself on me. Basically "If I can't do what others can do, he must be a no life kid and must be a loser". The guy who post this said he had over 600+ hours in poe2 which 100 of those hours are in 0.2 patch (0.2 only started for 10 days) and you call me no life. LMAO

3: Calling me tone deaf is kinda funny. "There´s absolutely no excuse for players to have as little progression as described in the topic just because they did the "wrong" content."

The "wrong" content? I can't even tell if you are trolling me at this point. There are only four end-game content "breach, ritual, delirium, expedition" I'm not counting citadel because there are not skill tree related to citdael for you to focus farm it.

So let see, Ritual is basically gambling re-roles, nothing much to say about it. Deli and breach are pretty much the same thing, you pick up splitters and sells them once you got 300 or fight boss to gamble the drop. Expedition, pick up those currency and logbooks you get and sell them. Everything is pretty straight-forward. What else can you do?

I'm doing EXACTLY what you guys are doing, farm maps with whatever content you like to put in the map (I do breach and exp) and I don't even juice my maps like they did. All I did was tell them to clear the citadel if they show up in the map to make easy money. SO WHAT WRONG CONTENT? breach, delirium, expedition can all make money expect ritual because it's a casino.

Your comment are literally meaningless but to hate on others because you suck at the game. When you said "To get to the point you are at" it really is funny to me. Because when I was Lvl 91 yesterday, each map with breach give me 6-7%. All it took was around 15 maps to level to 92 meanwhile other guys in the comment be like farming 44maps in 5 hours and I'm the jobless no life kid? No really, It's funny how people like you who are just bad at the game so they need to start blaming everything and calling people name and such just to boots their ego and feel better. I literally said the 0.2 patch loot is trash at the start of my comment, all I did was share others how to make some easy money while doing other content and you just had to be "THAT GUY".

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ScandiDiver#0604 wrote:

"

Mini_619#2021 wrote:

Here is my take on this matter and please don't hate me for my opinion. (Englsih not my first language)

Yes, I think the loot is bad compare to last league which was WAY over-tuned but it is not to the point where you can't make any money, I don't rely on big drops anymore. I literally made 16 div yesterday with none of those BIG drops from mapping such as 10div from strongbox, lvl20 gem etc. Hell, I haven't even seen one Greater or Perfect Jeweller's Orb from my entire gameplay in 0.2 patch and I have to buy both of them for my LSpear and LLance.

My LS amazon is currently 92 and I only have 87% rarity. I get around 2-5EX drop per maps and no, I don't juice my maps at all beside putting tablets because I like to do Breach, Expedition or Deli. At some point I don't even bother to alchemy my map and just transmutation it then start mapping, yet I still made over 10div a day. There are things to farm rather than waiting for a BIG drop that might never happen.

The way I do it is to farm the stone, iron, copper citadel. This patch makes it so easy because it high-light their location on your map far away and you had to do is to branch out instead of stay in one place all the time. These citadel drops Fragments to let you fight the burning monolith but you shouldn't fight him unless you like to gamble. I sold every fragments that I farm from citadel. ANCIENT FRAGMENT= 97EX, FADED=50EX, WEATHERED=65EX.

You don't even need to alchemy the map since it's a guarantee drop, sometimes it even drop 2 fragments from my transmutation map. Farming expedition logbooks and sell them are also profitable, just make sure you get the Extreme Archaeology on skill tree.

My conclusion/advise for new players: STOP RELYING ON RNG BIG DROPS AND START FARMING THINGS THAT CAN ACTULLY SELL FOR MONEY. I always hear players says: Div never drop in my maps and I don't have money to buy anything and my reactions are pretty much "Wait, div can drop in maps?". Hope this helps some of you get rich like I did.

This comment are just straight up tone deaf, you are delusional living in a little no life elitist bubble. There´s absolutely no excuse for players to have as little progression as described in the topic just because they did the "wrong" content.

To get to the point you are at i highly doubt you have a full time job, or any life at all outside playing games. A games progression can´t be measured by the standard of people that no-life a game playing pretty much 24/7 while try harding to play the top 1% broken build and season mechanics.

Newsflash for you! Majority of gamers are casual gamers that have lives and neither can spend hours every day watching content and reading up on the latest most efficient broken end-game mechanics or can no-life and play the hours required to utilize it even if they did.

A game that have a bad casual experience are a dead game, no game will survive on only hardcore no life players since they are such a small minority of overall gamers.

A game made like that will get so extremely low player base it will die and neither no lifers or casuals can enjoy the game.

Now that I look at you comment again is even more funnier because I finally read the last two sentence.

"A game that have a bad casual experience are a dead game, no game will survive on only hardcore no life players since they are such a small minority of overall gamers.

A game made like that will get so extremely low player base it will die and neither no lifers or casuals can enjoy the game."

You must be one of those people who always post "IT'S A DEAD GAME. NO PLAYER LEFT" POE survived for the last decade and now is still on number 5 steam chart not even counting people who don't play on steam. Take your negative bullshit somewhere like reddit. You called me a try-hard is the funniest thing in your comment. I said I don't even juice my map and run them with just transmutation orb while other juice as much as they can. But no, I'm a "tryhard" who try to play the game as casual as I can by not even juicing my maps.

Newsflash for you! You don't have to play 12 hours a day to reach level 92 nor enjoy the game.

We need to love this, wisps not droping loot, every freaking rare has proximal tangibility guess what they drop you guessed then correctly, gold, alg sometimes when im lucky regal