Bans for "Unintended" Mechanics? Insane

Ban everyone involved, remove all the duped currency from the market, reverse the trades if they were bought legitimately via alva. Alva interface should be allowed to record and reverse suspicious trades.

Those who traded in person, ban them as well.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Why do you want to enable people who want to break the game so badly?

Seems fishy.

... why is your reading comprehension so weak that you think I'm advocating for this in any way?

Or, perhaps worse, why are you saying I'm making an argument I never made?

I don't want them to break the game, and "remove their loot" should make that clear.

It's on GGG that they put it in the game, and on them that they waited 3 days.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 wrote:

OP, you clearly do not understand what the actual exploit was if you're saying that it is remotely unreasonable to ban the people who were doing it.

This was not "I found a unique map that was extra profitable, so I ran it a bunch of times."

This was "I found a change machine that gives back five quarters for every dollar that I put in, so I sat there for 9 hours feeding it dollar bills."

It is IMPOSSIBLE for a single person committing this exploit to have thought it was anything other than an exploit.

Anyone that encountered something like this would immediately know it was unintended. And thus, using it. Immoral in this online economy driven game.

This was a choice. And deserves a ban. It was a loophole, yes caused by GGG, but the players know better.

They don't ban people if they accidentaly find a gamebreaking bug and report it (mens testing the game and report if something doesen't work as intended).

They ban people if they find a bug or in your case use a bug found by someone else, abuse this mechanic for the own advantage to enrich themself and destroy the game experiance for everyone else this way. ;)

whats wrong with figuring out advantageous mechanics in the game?

The bigger issue than the weak/fucked RMT side economy is that theres basically two builds on the entire server right now, javelin lightning and minions, anyone else is in the 2% of other.


Banning a user for finding a advantageous mechanic in a game centered around amassing power and wealth is absurd, fix the game, i swear some of the ppl replying on this thread are covert employees. You banning these people does not solve the poe problem, it doesnt even make for good media, if anything why even announce this, ban the accounts for a season and move on, theres so much bad shit going on behind the scenes of this game that if this is what you are worried about you are truthfully clueless

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RaleonNightShado#3282 wrote:

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Why do you want to enable people who want to break the game so badly?

Seems fishy.

... why is your reading comprehension so weak that you think I'm advocating for this in any way?

Or, perhaps worse, why are you saying I'm making an argument I never made?

I don't want them to break the game, and "remove their loot" should make that clear.

It's on GGG that they put it in the game, and on them that they waited 3 days.

You don't want to ban people, who made the active choice. To use an unintended mechanic, for profit, and disruption of the economy.

Mistake or not. People knew better. They could've just reported the issue. They choose instead to abuse it.

banning them is lame.

i did not do it btw, didnt even finished campaign with my char.

it s not an exploit, they just got 100% effects of stuff.

ggg butthurt they cant math and put a limit to that.

stop with stupid analogies. it s a fun interaction. ggg should laugh it offf and that s it. talking like it s analog to a crime is also laughable and i am not asking for yoou to be banned for that.

The ban isn't for any form of cheating, exploiting or economic vandalism.

The ban is for publicly embarrassing the dev/s & QA/s responsible for the tablet in question.

It is bitchy, spiteful even, but this is how the world works.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

and disruption of the economy.

rofl. and people wonder why path of exile is called a second job.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

You don't want to ban people, who made the active choice. To use an unintended mechanic, for profit, and disruption of the economy.

Mistake or not. People knew better. They could've just reported the issue. They choose instead to abuse it.

In Early Access? Using a mechanic GGG themselves put in the game? No. I don't, at least not more than a week or so after thinking on the "intentional" factor of those who thought it was a bug and pushed the use of it to its limits. There does need to be a deterrent effect but it SHOULD NOT have a chilling effect on players in what is, effectively, the game's playtesting stage.

I also don't think most of you understand economics in the first place - more divines in the economy means a better exalt:divine ratio for most players. The only "economy" that got messed up was the 0.01% of players who craft endgame mirror gear, and that CAN be fixed by deleting the majority of excess wealth. The "RMT" bots everyone seems worried about were always going to be there, farming stuff and selling it, and (from my limited understanding) have so much wealth almost immediately in a league that this *cannot* affect us through them.

This was a mistake. Yes. Give 'em some slap on the wrists to know it's wrong and let that be a mark against them if they do something like this again but...

... what people seem to be missing, most crucially is:

Where is the line that constitutes a bannable use of existing non-bugged mechanics? Not trying to argue slippery slope here, and OBVIOUSLY this was way over "intended", but bannable is debatable in context.


Personally, I think one second one-shotting end-game pinnacle bosses is far more of an "exploit".