POE2 being the main focus is the right choice.
" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3713657 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3712876 You sure? Those are just the apologists and deaf ears from today. |
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I was hopeful that the poe1 peeps would have a league to go play.
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" It isn't about whether I like or dislike people venting their emotions. It's about the agonizingly clear demonstration of a complete and utter lack of understanding of the situation. Did PoE2 delay PoE1 in a way Jonathan promised it would not? Yes. That is on Jonathan, and the onus is now on him to prove he means his apology and act to correct the problem as swiftly as he is reasonably able. Yesterday's announcement is going to cost him a nontrivial number of players, and he has to eat that penalty because by the actions he authorized, the company earned it. Things Jonathan cannot do, no matter how much the community howls like assholes: 1.) Travel back in time and tell himself "you don't have time, you need to do SOMETHING for 3.26." 2.) Travel back in time even further and tell himself "POE2 needs an endgame, and you need more than six months to develop it or you'll wind up regretting it." 3.) Magically double the size of the studio overnight, and in a way that actually helps the problem rather than splintering the company into total, paralyzing chaos 4.) Go forward in time two or three years, to the time when Grinding Gear has figured out how to manage two games at once, and steal all those people and procedures to implement them early in The Nowadays. 5.) Ask the ghost of Robin Williams to grant him a genie's wish to make everything better. We're in this predicament. There's nothing we can really do about it. The company clearly has no idea how to handle developing multiple games at once. They likely thought that developing multiple leagues at once, the way they had for years, would have prepared them, and they are very clearly wrong. They need to figure out how to do this thing, and that is going to take time. You can either come along for the ride while acknowledging their fuck-ups along the way, or you can decide that their fuck-ups are too much to cope with and peace out until they fix it - or decide you're done after all and find greener pastures. What doesn't help one single soul including yourself is spending all day every day venting gas at anyone and everyone because you're just so mad and you have to let it out. It sucks. POE1 deserved better, and I say this as a woman who's come to hate the first game and what it represents. It still deserved better. But it didn't get it. We can acknowledge the reality of the situation or continue to be children demanding reality warp to suit our whim. Which feels more productive? She/Her
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strange how some people when they get blatantly lied to, and on top of the that the ones doing it are getting tens of millions of profit, like it. Where the fuck did all the money went, like really ? All those sub par leagues we had the last years, the unfinished state of poe 2 and sometimes even the rushed state.
Not everyone has the fantasy to get tied and whipped. Plz refrain from imposing your desires on others thanks. they had enough money to do way way way better. And dont act like our way of talking has any impact. "you should behave" if not what ? they re gonna lie more and make more profit ? insane. downright insane. Last edited by SerialF#4835 on Jan 30, 2025, 1:40:34 PM
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" you hate a video game and what it represents ? like can i say more without getting edited by mods. it s a video game. |
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" Maybe I am overthinking the reasons, whatever, I don't care about it. There is no thinking regarding the org though. JR comes and apologize, and that's alright. "Look, we made a mistake, we failed handling that, we made bad choices" whatever, shit happens. The unacceptable thing comes when, admitting mistakes, he still goes on with the same mistake. Failing deadlines is the normal life of a project, no matter the field. It's one thing to apologize, but if you still didn't take control over the planning, you bring no value. If I go to a customer meeting, with a missed deadline, without a new solid planning explaining how and when we will handle the consequences, I'm just dead. A project manager coming after failure over deadlines, but not having new deadlines and careful planning is an incompetent one. Reminder, JR is supposed to be the boss. If this is the captain on GGG boat, I'm really concerned as to how that boat will go any clear direction. |
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" Are the devs magically shielded from the rest of the outrage by a handful of threads expressing the belief that the bollixing of support for PoE1 isn't the end of the world? No. Nobody is protecting the developers from shit. They get to deal with all the fallout regardless of a few voices of relative reason. What y'all are looking for is blanket permission to be uncivilized louts about the whole thing. Nah. Say what you want, of course, but the rest of us get to say what we want just as much, and what we're saying is y'all are being thoroughly ridiculous. The statement "Jonathan fucked up, this mistake is gonna cost him a lot of players, and the company needs to do better moving forward" is absolutely true. The statement "Path of Exile 1 deserved better than this" is also absolutely true. The statement - which all of you are making - "Grinding Gear is nothing but a bunch of evil malicious money-grubbing jerks who deliberately and intentionally broke their promise for the sake of propping up their new baby and sucking undeserved money out of everyone" is a load of horse manure. That's the thing that really pisses everybody else off - the deliberately false accusations of malice. This. Was. A. Mistake. Quite a thoroughly bad one, they really stepped into the shit this time. It's going to cost them, and I would not ease those costs. The lost revenue is the price they pay for mishandling this situation. But it is simply a mistake. They mishandled the situation, badly, but not at all out of a sense of malice. They simply had no clue how hard the realities of developing multiple games simultaneously were going to hit them. Now they have that clue, and they need to adjust. People calling them out for that mistake, nobody has any problem with. People being deliberate asstrolls throwing accusations of malice, mongering conspiracies left and right, and proclaiming the Doom of All Things PoE1 Forever? They're a bunch of unhelpful yaybos and they need to settle the hell down. " Yes. PoE1 represents untrammeled power creep - or power sprint, rather - and completely unplanned and unchecked scope creep. Far more than the second game will ever be, PoE1 is the skeleton of a fantastic game wrapped in fifteen years of cancerous tumors. It's a game that has outlived itself by a matter of over half a decade, and the ONLY people who actually enjoy it are the 10k-hour Ultra Vets who've carved a home in the putrescent flesh and zealously defend it against all Evil Invaders. With "Evil Invaders" being literally anyone else, including honest new players wanting to figure out what the deal is. There's a reason my playing, and supporting, of PoE1 waned over the last few years, and why only the promise of PoE2 and what it was supposed to be kept me going at all. Path 1 is no longer fun or interesting. It's just a lame excuse for Dynasty Warriors blaster-master Boomer Zoomer power fantasy horseshit, and that is simply not worth supporting or dealing with anymore. She/Her
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" The fact is that they're trying everything to discredit any criticism, and that is, in a way, trying to protect the devs from that criticism. Just don't make the mistake of mixing me with the derranged PoE1 fans and i won't make the mistake of mixing you with the derranged PoE2 fans. Last edited by Z3RoNightMare#7140 on Jan 30, 2025, 2:14:56 PM
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" Considering they have made the next update v0.2.0, that means it should be a rather major update when we jump all the way from v0.1.1. Any developer knows this kind of leap signals a pretty substantial update to the code. They are also keeping the PoE developers on the PoE2 team to crunch it until it's deployed, so again, most likely this is a bigger update and one that will bring with it bigger changes than the small updates we got so far, such as the alterations to the towers, map waypoints and a change to a bunch of Uniques. These changes were nice, but not substantial enough to feel impactful. It sucks that it has taken this long of course, more so with a radio silence from GGG leaving the players in the dark as to what is going on, and I personally would much rather have them trickle in features and QoL on a more rapid release cadence over trying to do bigger updates like this will (likely) be. But I can wait, I assume this update will be actually impactful. And for the PoE purists that still only wants to play that game, they will do the next league once v.0.2.0 is deployed and they have spent a week or two to patch and hotfix any major issues that may arise. They do have a skeleton crew working on that game's patch currently too, so it's not like nothing at all is being done towards v3.26 in PoE, as was stated in their recent video. I get that it sucks to have to wait. It sucks to wait for updates to PoE2 as well. But at least now they've broken the radio silence and that's all I wanted at the end of the day. Some signs of life. I wouldn't be against them doing a little bit of details sharing on features they know will be ready for v.0.2.0 as well, to give us an update on what they are working on. Maybe even some info on features they are uncertain if they can't fit it in in time. Hell, asking the player base what they think about a proposed feature could be very nice as well. Making players feel included in the ideas for the game and helping direct development time away from things players say they'd absolutely hate en masse. Unless you are certain players would like the feature, developing it for a few months to only have massive backlash and having to roll it back is such a waste of time. It can be useful to "poll" the playerbase too sometimes. Last edited by Absconditus#0168 on Jan 30, 2025, 2:24:54 PM
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