So much hate for this game from "fans"

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itz TAXI#8502 wrote:

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snolan#0995 wrote:

First - POE 2 is far different from POE 1. I think, GGG screwed up using the same name but did it to carry the brand. It, was a business decision. It doesn't tick many of the POE 1 boxes so of course, people are going to get pissed off.

At it's core, POE2 is a very solid ARPG with a fairly amazing engine but is clearly pre-release - it is 1/2 to a 1/3rd of a game right now. Some of the bugs are big suck, there aren't really many viable builds (as, ultimately, it suffers from the POE1 syndrome of 'just kill the boss before it does anything')

I'm excited for the rest of the campaign. End game needs a looooot of work but it's really no different than POE 1 way back when it released. It's actually closer to a spiritual successor to D3 than D2. Hell - I'm not even sure it's a spiritual successor to POE1.

I will, 100% play POE 2 when there's all the classes, all the weapons. There will be changes to the way support gems work, guaranteed. I also, can see why many, many POE 1 fans will not. It is a great 'souls-like' ARPG.

It is not - POE 1. I do not have 13 tabs open to figure out how to optimally craft an item, or have some jank combination of gems / tree that work.

The problem is - people are comparing the two games and you can't. I put a lot of that on GGG trying to utilize the same brand name. I also, have confidence GGG will refine and carve out an amazing game in the POE 2 sphere. I do not think POE 2 will scratch the POE 1 itch for many though.

I would of liked to have played my degenerate, whack-a-mole dopamine simulator with my crafting codex that is POE 1. POE 1 was like stock-market simulator.. you can't even really buy anoints without an unreal amount of currency in POE 2 at the moment... it's tough to get a totally functioning economy like POE 1 was, just look at the divine / exalt market impact change when the meta craft changed.

POE 2 is not superior in every way because it's comparing an apple to a grapefruit. POE 2 is fine in it's own right. I enjoy POE 2 but I understand why people could be vocally pissed off.

I think perhaps, OP should consider taking their own advice and sitting down instead of chain stringing replies - there are very valid points in the rabbling. Other 2013 account says it well, people just don't arcitulate their valid points well.

if ots not poe 1 then why do the pc players still use all the trade macros and adons? why cant pc players play vanilla? its poe 2 not 1 right? console is FORCED to. they should BAN ALL AD ONS AND TRADE MACROS.now cry to me about your need of trade crutches then tell me trades fine on console. you tell us to look at the market that you right click and cheat all the info onto your screen. consoles cant do that. its so funny how the coddled pc player tells the console players to sit down....

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snolan#0995 wrote:

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itz TAXI#8502 wrote:

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snolan#0995 wrote:

First - POE 2 is far different from POE 1. I think, GGG screwed up using the same name but did it to carry the brand. It, was a business decision. It doesn't tick many of the POE 1 boxes so of course, people are going to get pissed off.

At it's core, POE2 is a very solid ARPG with a fairly amazing engine but is clearly pre-release - it is 1/2 to a 1/3rd of a game right now. Some of the bugs are big suck, there aren't really many viable builds (as, ultimately, it suffers from the POE1 syndrome of 'just kill the boss before it does anything')

I'm excited for the rest of the campaign. End game needs a looooot of work but it's really no different than POE 1 way back when it released. It's actually closer to a spiritual successor to D3 than D2. Hell - I'm not even sure it's a spiritual successor to POE1.

I will, 100% play POE 2 when there's all the classes, all the weapons. There will be changes to the way support gems work, guaranteed. I also, can see why many, many POE 1 fans will not. It is a great 'souls-like' ARPG.

It is not - POE 1. I do not have 13 tabs open to figure out how to optimally craft an item, or have some jank combination of gems / tree that work.

The problem is - people are comparing the two games and you can't. I put a lot of that on GGG trying to utilize the same brand name. I also, have confidence GGG will refine and carve out an amazing game in the POE 2 sphere. I do not think POE 2 will scratch the POE 1 itch for many though.

I would of liked to have played my degenerate, whack-a-mole dopamine simulator with my crafting codex that is POE 1. POE 1 was like stock-market simulator.. you can't even really buy anoints without an unreal amount of currency in POE 2 at the moment... it's tough to get a totally functioning economy like POE 1 was, just look at the divine / exalt market impact change when the meta craft changed.

POE 2 is not superior in every way because it's comparing an apple to a grapefruit. POE 2 is fine in it's own right. I enjoy POE 2 but I understand why people could be vocally pissed off.

I think perhaps, OP should consider taking their own advice and sitting down instead of chain stringing replies - there are very valid points in the rabbling. Other 2013 account says it well, people just don't arcitulate their valid points well.

if ots not poe 1 then why do the pc players still use all the trade macros and adons? why cant pc players play vanilla? its poe 2 not 1 right? console is FORCED to. they should BAN ALL AD ONS AND TRADE MACROS.now cry to me about your need of trade crutches then tell me trades fine on console. you tell us to look at the market that you right click and cheat all the info onto your screen. consoles cant do that. its so funny how the coddled pc player tells the console players to sit down....

That's the point you handicap...... it's NOT the same game. It's console driven.

At least you can turn your console on, probably stretching your capabilities :)

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

And secondly, people need to learn how to give feedback:

- Be specific and provide examples.
- Focus on actions or outcomes, not personal attributes.
- Use constructive and respectful language.
- Balance positive feedback with areas for improvement.
- Suggest actionable steps or solutions.

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

I have 2500 hours in PoE, but I think PoE2 is better in almost every aspect. Stop thinking that you represent the entire playerbase. You don't.

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Terzian#6850 wrote:

I'm a fan of poe1

They made a product that I view as inferior in almost every regard.

Doing so made poe1 worse by diverting resources from it.

It is clear to me that poe2 is a product of hubris and idiocy.

I hate that it exists, I hate that it has split the community, I hate that poe1 has less content and a reduced player base because of it, I hate that people are hyped about something that has dramatically negatively impacted my enjoyment and future enjoyment, I hate that sub-communities are focused on something that I hate.

If poe2 servers were accidentally destroyed and the source code lost I would find great joy in it.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

I have never seen haters enjoy the downfall of a product as much as "supporters" of the studio, who constantly brag about how much money they whaled (and who ostracise others for not "supporting" the studio as much as they do), do