GGG Stop doing PoE2 only for nolife's

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MEITTI#3999 wrote:

Elden Ring being hard didn't stop casual players from enjoying it. To argue that casuals don't like challenge is a lie. YOU don't like challenge because you don't actually want to play an action rpg. You want to play Cookie Clicker.

Lets look at elden rings player numbers and the achivements for it casuals gave up before the first boss...

I am so tired of the people who say you can't satisfy everyone.
Yes you can!

Make a Normal league and Ruthless league.

Ruthless is what we have now.
Normal is toned down.

All it takes is changing some numbers around.

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aratir0807#0936 wrote:

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MEITTI#3999 wrote:

Elden Ring being hard didn't stop casual players from enjoying it. To argue that casuals don't like challenge is a lie. YOU don't like challenge because you don't actually want to play an action rpg. You want to play Cookie Clicker.

Lets look at elden rings player numbers and the achivements for it casuals gave up before the first boss...

Well just check sales of its DLC.. (people that bought the DLC did not play only up to first boss). Still 5 million in 3 days.. nothing too shabby.

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Locuus#1650 wrote:

I am so tired of the people who say you can't satisfy everyone.
Yes you can!

Make a Normal league and Ruthless league.

Ruthless is what we have now.
Normal is toned down.

All it takes is changing some numbers around.

No its not. You make easy mode players will play that instead. Why? Because players in general are greedy and lazy. They will always choose the path of least resistance. Players will play easy mode > game will get balanced around easy mode > game turns out like PoE1. I dont want PoE1, i already have it.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

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Locuus#1650 wrote:

I am so tired of the people who say you can't satisfy everyone.
Yes you can!

Make a Normal league and Ruthless league.

Ruthless is what we have now.
Normal is toned down.

All it takes is changing some numbers around.

No its not. You make easy mode players will play that instead. Why? Because players in general are greedy and lazy. They will always choose the path of least resistance. Players will play easy mode > game will get balanced around easy mode > game turns out like PoE1. I dont want PoE1, i already have it.

Makes sense to me. Give people the option to choose, and if they choose, balance around it. What you in particular want, does not matter.

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FTKesho90#5799 wrote:

Makes sense to me. Give people the option to choose, and if they choose, balance around it. What you in particular want, does not matter.

Same goes for you. What players want is rarely good for the game. Once players get what they want they tend to get bored fast and move on. Rewards are relevant only when they are earned, not given.

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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 wrote:

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wiesiul#1428 wrote:

It's terrible how you ignore casual gamers in PoE 2....

Let people choose how they wont to play don't make them to play ruthless only...

You make a product for a target audience.. you cannot ever make all happy. And POE 2 is not for no life for god's sake. Even elon musk is playing it.. and I DOUBT .. you are remotely as busy as he is.

I've got 5 jobs 7 wives and 16 kids just like Elon and I enjoy POE2, definitely don't think it's fair to say it's made just for no-lifers.

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Locuus#1650 wrote:

I am so tired of the people who say you can't satisfy everyone.
Yes you can!

Make a Normal league and Ruthless league.

Ruthless is what we have now.
Normal is toned down.

All it takes is changing some numbers around.

Standard IS the casual league for normies. Just use trading.
Solo Self-Found is the ruthless league.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

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Locuus#1650 wrote:

I am so tired of the people who say you can't satisfy everyone.
Yes you can!

Make a Normal league and Ruthless league.

Ruthless is what we have now.
Normal is toned down.

All it takes is changing some numbers around.

No its not. You make easy mode players will play that instead. Why? Because players in general are greedy and lazy. They will always choose the path of least resistance. Players will play easy mode > game will get balanced around easy mode > game turns out like PoE1. I dont want PoE1, i already have it.

People want to have a choice. If you choose to play on ultra hard, that's your right, but that doesn't mean everyone else should follow your vision. Everyone has the right to play at the difficulty that suits them. Denying this freedom of choice is elitist and selfish

+1 Totally Agree!!!

There are players who dedicate countless hours to completing the campaign, and once they've finished it with one character, they simply want to play with a second character to try out new things. But instead, they’re forced to go through all the same content again. You’re basically being "penalized" for wanting to explore new options, even though you’ve already completed the campaign once.

Many say, "but it doesn’t take as long as the first run to finish a second journey!" But that’s not the point—the real question is: does it really have to be repeated?

Please, think more about casual players who have families, study, work, and just want to enjoy 2 hours of fun in the game during their free time. Let them have happiness and explore new builds without frustration, please!