GGG, you won against this new player to the franchise.

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Foremost28#5787 wrote:

So, my Merc friend finally gave in.

Tried Chaos trials, get to the boss...die.
Did that 4 times.

Couple of things he said
"If Im playing an ARPG for myself, why should I have to go to a marketplace to trade with other players to find gear for my build? That defeats the purpose of me playing the game for myself, I dont want to trade with ppl. D2 had that, an you would spend hours in trade lobbies. If that is what this game is about, its a trash game, hands down."

So, with that, an yes I paid for the unfinished beta test too, Im out.

This game is not new player friendly, its for the hardcore PoE fanbase an thats not me.
The loot is trash.
The 'crafting' system is garbo unless you buy stuff from the market because you get so few drops when your salvaging mats.
Im here to play for myself, not for others.
Ive tried doing a build for warrior that 'wasnt what I wanted' an it does such little damage, its garbo as well. Fun factor with melee is -100 for warrior.
"You NEED RESISTANCES!!!" Ok? What if Im not getting lucky with drops? "THE MARKET PLACE YOU BOOB!" No, I dont want to trade with other players, Im playing solo for myself, adjust loot. D4 started with RM AH, an we all saw how that went, but this is a staple of PoE, so its auto trash. Im sorry.
Spending an absurd about to respec is fucking stupid. It took WoW YEARS to go to free respecs because its the future of gaming, not an archaic time in gaming.

Well, Hardcore PoE fanbase an GGG, you won against this new player to the franchise. It needs alot of work, but sadly I wont be back.
Take care you all in your new game!
I hope you make it a game that caters to the hardcore fanbase since its a real toxic fanbase you have catered too.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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Vomk#2797 wrote:

Really hope GGG dont cave in and listen to all these cry baby posts. The game is not too hard, if a certain boss is too hard for you then go back and farm some more which the game is all about, farming items.

Check vendors for upgrades every level. If you have decent gear and your dps still suck then its your build, maybe do some changes there.
If you play standard you can get away with very low resistances.

It's either they "cave in" and improve the game or it just dies.

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Foremost28#5787 wrote:

So, my Merc friend finally gave in.

Tried Chaos trials, get to the boss...die.
Did that 4 times.

Couple of things he said
"If Im playing an ARPG for myself, why should I have to go to a marketplace to trade with other players to find gear for my build? That defeats the purpose of me playing the game for myself, I dont want to trade with ppl. D2 had that, an you would spend hours in trade lobbies. If that is what this game is about, its a trash game, hands down."

So, with that, an yes I paid for the unfinished beta test too, Im out.

This game is not new player friendly, its for the hardcore PoE fanbase an thats not me.
The loot is trash.
The 'crafting' system is garbo unless you buy stuff from the market because you get so few drops when your salvaging mats.
Im here to play for myself, not for others.
Ive tried doing a build for warrior that 'wasnt what I wanted' an it does such little damage, its garbo as well. Fun factor with melee is -100 for warrior.
"You NEED RESISTANCES!!!" Ok? What if Im not getting lucky with drops? "THE MARKET PLACE YOU BOOB!" No, I dont want to trade with other players, Im playing solo for myself, adjust loot. D4 started with RM AH, an we all saw how that went, but this is a staple of PoE, so its auto trash. Im sorry.
Spending an absurd about to respec is fucking stupid. It took WoW YEARS to go to free respecs because its the future of gaming, not an archaic time in gaming.

Well, Hardcore PoE fanbase an GGG, you won against this new player to the franchise. It needs alot of work, but sadly I wont be back.
Take care you all in your new game!
I hope you make it a game that caters to the hardcore fanbase since its a real toxic fanbase you have catered too.

"

Foremost28#5787 wrote:

So, my Merc friend finally gave in.

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Vomk#2797 wrote:

Most def wont lol

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Sqarpi#7850 wrote:

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Foremost28#5787 wrote:

So, my Merc friend finally gave in.

Tried Chaos trials, get to the boss...die.
Did that 4 times.

Couple of things he said
"If Im playing an ARPG for myself, why should I have to go to a marketplace to trade with other players to find gear for my build? That defeats the purpose of me playing the game for myself, I dont want to trade with ppl. D2 had that, an you would spend hours in trade lobbies. If that is what this game is about, its a trash game, hands down."

So, with that, an yes I paid for the unfinished beta test too, Im out.

This game is not new player friendly, its for the hardcore PoE fanbase an thats not me.
The loot is trash.
The 'crafting' system is garbo unless you buy stuff from the market because you get so few drops when your salvaging mats.
Im here to play for myself, not for others.
Ive tried doing a build for warrior that 'wasnt what I wanted' an it does such little damage, its garbo as well. Fun factor with melee is -100 for warrior.
"You NEED RESISTANCES!!!" Ok? What if Im not getting lucky with drops? "THE MARKET PLACE YOU BOOB!" No, I dont want to trade with other players, Im playing solo for myself, adjust loot. D4 started with RM AH, an we all saw how that went, but this is a staple of PoE, so its auto trash. Im sorry.
Spending an absurd about to respec is fucking stupid. It took WoW YEARS to go to free respecs because its the future of gaming, not an archaic time in gaming.

Well, Hardcore PoE fanbase an GGG, you won against this new player to the franchise. It needs alot of work, but sadly I wont be back.
Take care you all in your new game!
I hope you make it a game that caters to the hardcore fanbase since its a real toxic fanbase you have catered too.

Nope. It is not friendly to people who want a reward for participation, not for trying.
I have played about 700 hours in PoE 1, and I have a great time here. I died about 200 times in my first three acts, and sometimes I had to approach the boss about 15 times, and that was great! It's a challenge!
My friend, who did not see PoE but was a Diablo player, is also having fun here.
We had free respec in Diablo 3, and boy I hated it. You feel like your build dis some generic sh**t rather than well thought. Because why to think about it if you can easily change it? I don't know why people are so afraid of making mistakes. It is just a game. You can lose, and so what? I can tell you a secret. Nothing happens. You can start over, and learn a lesson from your mistakes.
People nowadays expect games to reward them just for pressing start. This is not how it should be! The game should be challenging! C'mon. In PoE you have so many explanations, that even if your most complicated game so far was Solitude, you can easily slowly build up your knowledge about what to do and how to do it.

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ErdrickDragonsbane#5911 wrote:

I've also quit the EA. There are so many core elements that are busted and anti-fun, and I won't return until they're changed. If they never get changed, I'm done with PoE and GGG.

1. On-death loot despawn and monster respawn needs to go
2. Single-attempt maps needs to be reverted back to six, it wasn't broken so why break it?
3. When doing group play in maps you should be able to revive other players so they don't have to use an extra portal
4. Gems need to level with experience again
5. Uncut Gems need to be thrown in the trashbin of bad ideas
6. Add Gems back to the vendors like in PoE1, and add a Gem Vendor who sells every regular rarity Gem, also like in PoE1
7. Massively increase drop rates; we play ARPGs for loot, and so we can gear ourselves as we level without having to resort to trading (but can do so if we feel like it)
8. Add a crafting bench so we can actually craft, and not just gamble for affixes
9. Massively increase move speed options and movement skill options
10. Fix the passive tree to have more survivability (HP in particular) nodes, and more build-making nodes
11. Massively increase the skill speed of certain abilities (mainly Warrior abilities which are far too slow)
12. Remove the instant-death abilities such as the Hag water bubbles
13. Fix Leap Slam to not get pushed around midair, or slowed midair, or anything else that makes zero sense from a physics perspective; getting frozen in the middle of a jump shouldn't make you float in midair
14. Bring back Labs instead of Sanctum and Ultimatum, both of which are absolute garbage-tier design for Trials
15. Massively reduce the size of zones and maps
16. Rework the zones to feel like they were built for a real life purpose by the people living in the game world, and not like they were built by a third-rate game dev building their first ever map in someone else's map editing program with the express purpose of building an overly large maze for the players to wander around in for far too long.

Seriously. These zones feel about as poorly made as the first map I made in the Star Craft map editor when I was 10 years old, and thought that's what people meant by 'custom maps'. And then I played custom maps online, and realized there were entire RPGs being made within Star Craft by the players. These PoE2 zones are my garbage attempts at making custom maps as a small child.

Anyways. PoE2 has already dropped 28% peak to peak player count from opening weekend to today. So whatever anyone tells you about how much they like this game and they don't want GGG to change these terrible core philosophies and design elements, they're wrong. And the numbers prove it. This game's hemorrhaging players at a rate of around 4% of the previous day's numbers per day, and it's not even a free beta--it's paid; and it's a game type that's supposed to keep players playing for weeks or even months at a stretch.

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Sqarpi#7850 wrote:

The game should be challenging!

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

And so it begins. The game will start losing players like crazy in the next 2 months after the hype wears off and people either quit during the campaign or get to endgame and see just how badly this game is designed, and how much it wastes your time.