Cast on freeze nerf and overall thoughts so far.

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StrykerxS77x#8221 wrote:

Comets constantly raining did not look intended.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

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AuthorApollosThorne#7638 wrote:

Punishing players for their mistake in game design shouldn't be a thing. Especially now that they're charging for Early Access. Changes are expected, yes, but if my time isn't respected, then they shouldn't be charging. That's why I expect GGG to do something like issue a respec once they see the push back.

But thats literally the purpose of EA games, to correct such mistakes. You willingly opted to take part in such thing so dont feel entitled to anything. They dont owe us anything. Such things are just bound to happen and should be expected by anyone taking part in this. EA main puprose is not to let people play you know. Always have plan B,C or even D. You never know when parts of the game will change. They could even remove a class if they decide its bad for the game. Thats just the nature of EA, you have to deal with it.

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Kezz123#5086 wrote:

Just want to preface with the positive.

I LOVE the game.

I had a blast from the start making a sorc and played with Arc which wasnt strong but was ok.

I swapped to frost and I got access to Cast on Freeze and used the comet and basically used all my currency tweaking that build to work well enough to finally feel that same feeling I used to have in PoE1 when you sort of reached that point where you build finally "started working"

Anyways, I had a great time.

The nerf to Cast on Freeze however is way too harsh. Its basically useless now.

And this is my main complaint so far....so many of the skills you get to pick from feel so underwhelming. I felt like you purposely placed these cast on X skill at the level you did to allow people to get that "escalation" of their build and start feeling powerful.

As it is, it feels like the build is dead. I swapped out of frost to arc at early levels because frost felt underwhelming...Arc felt slightly better.

For now, going back to feeling so weak, I think I am glad I played a lot when I did because now ill take a break

Hopefully you guys figure out the curve of enjoyment because this is a great game so far. Ill try it again at some point later.

PS: Nerfing builds in the ground a few days after release is pretty cruel. You are left with no currency and no real ways to progress....maybe I should just restart a new classs but im worried about it also getting nerfed as soon as it gets fun.

For instance, Electric Rod rangers seem to be pretty crazy....so...its just a matter of time before they are nerfed too or was this just a cast on X treatment?

Slight note. This is exactly what happened to me back in Diablo2 that made me stop playing d2. I had a super weak amazon as main. I swapped to a necromancer after hearing from a friend that corpse explosion was good. I spent hours working on my necro and they nerfed it into the ground and it was now worse than my amazon which was aweful.

Meanwhile I would look at ice storm sorceresses and barbs plow through the maps while I was struggling to kill white mobs. So I just left the game

When you nerf like this, you create distrust in the company. Now Im afraid of investing time into anything that may be feeling strong because it may just be nerfed to hell.

To address the OP directly because I'm not really sure I care what eleven pages of ragetrolls have to say...

As best I understand it, the Energy nerf for Cast on [X] builds is partially temporary. The current nerf was put in place to deal with builds that were breaking the game while they work on a more comprehensive overhaul for Energy to scale better with strength of the triggering event. Similarly to the nerf for Gas Arrow/Gas Grenade, the immediate nerf was put in place because GGG needed the borked, wildly overperforming versions of those builds out of their testing pool, but they do not intend to leave the skills in that state over the long term.

Even if that is not the current intent - and again, I'm reasonably certain that is the idea - there is every reason to expect that if the initial hit came down too hard, a subsequent rebalance will lessen the blow. Jonathan and Mark both said that numerical balance swings like this were going to come pretty thick and hard in the early-days run of EA while they tried to club everything into something resembling shape.

Getting triggers working right is going to take a few swings. The balance on them is unfortunately very fiddly - overdo it by just a little bit to either side and triggers are either useless or easily the most ridiculously borked and overperforming thing in the entire game. I'm sorry this hit a build you were enjoying as hard as it did, and I hope they get around to those Energy improvements sooner rather than later.