We wanted PoE with better graphics in PoE2 not god awful Darksouls dodge combat

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Andromansis#4714 wrote:

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Kashou#2868 wrote:

I absolutely did not want PoE1 with better graphics. This is exactly what I wanted.

Glad for you, but you can see how you aren't exactly bringing forth any sort of helpful tips to help others enjoy the game. There is a communication problem here and I think its just that everybody is really bad at communicating.

Based on the level of discourse on the forum I don't think most of the users could string together a sentence to describe what helped their enjoyment of the game or even what they did enjoy about the game. Fundamentally either we want to be helping other users enjoy the game or we don't, and if we don't why are we on the forums at all?

I want to agree with you, but I think that both "sides" need to take a step back. I feel that the people who find it hard to enjoy PoE2 in the current state started to voice that with way to high tone, putting people who do enjoy it into defensive.

I do hope that the emotions on both sides calm down, and we can start having productive discussions.

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Serpenta#3353 wrote:

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Andromansis#4714 wrote:

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Kashou#2868 wrote:

I absolutely did not want PoE1 with better graphics. This is exactly what I wanted.

Glad for you, but you can see how you aren't exactly bringing forth any sort of helpful tips to help others enjoy the game. There is a communication problem here and I think its just that everybody is really bad at communicating.

Based on the level of discourse on the forum I don't think most of the users could string together a sentence to describe what helped their enjoyment of the game or even what they did enjoy about the game. Fundamentally either we want to be helping other users enjoy the game or we don't, and if we don't why are we on the forums at all?

I want to agree with you, but I think that both "sides" need to take a step back. I feel that the people who find it hard to enjoy PoE2 in the current state started to voice that with way to high tone, putting people who do enjoy it into defensive.

I do hope that the emotions on both sides calm down, and we can start having productive discussions.

My big takeaway is that it EXTREMELY EASY TO JUST PLAY THE GAME WRONG and the game does not forgive you for that. But also basically every world zone has the maze affix on it, stuff does respawn when it should be respawning, and its a completely different type of loot friction that other ARPGs have.

Then you have people trolling telling people to go play "d4" or "go back to path of exile" and those people are completely missing the point that those two games are basically just the last of the dying breed that is action rpgs. There is not going to be another Dungeon Siege game because the community did not turn up for it any time they did release a game, there isn't going to be another Champions of Norrath, Marvel Heroes is deceased, Level-5 has to stick to known sellers and can't make the sort of experimental ARPGs they used to, Neverland had a mediocre contract with Square Enix and had to sell to Marvelous-AQL so we're never getting another ARPG from them, Black Isle went bankrupt because they couldn't sell enough copies of their ARPG, Torchlight went full lootbox mode on their customers after a mediocre release that didn't hit sales goals. Magic Legends was so universally shit upon by the ARPG community that they just ate the $25 million in dev costs and refunds and shut it down. Real artists ship but artists are apparently destined to suffer for the art they might be proud of. There could have been something better than a binary choice for action rpgs in the current year if the ARPG community didn't suck so much. All of my favorite game companies are dead and the ARPG community was behind each of their murders. They wouldn't even turn out of the Wildman kickstarter.

But yea, path of exile 2 is pretty fun to play with friends, you all should be playing it with friends.

Again, it's not like Dark Souls at all

You can play it with just mouse

Checkpoints everywhere

No loosing progress

Much too easy for a soulslike

Just an engaging arpg with actual gameplay

I really enjoy the current PoE2 combat, please do not make it similiar to poe1 which I found always aweful. Meaningful combos, lots of depth in building my character and experimenting with support gems, complex telegraphs to dodge - PoE2 is just awesome.

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tyreen#6725 wrote:

Most of the people saying the game is great are new players with fresh accounts, little to no history of buying supporter packs and private profile. They’ll probably move on once the hype fades and won’t stick around for future leagues. They only play it because their favorite streamer is playing it. Their opinions don’t really reflect what the core community wants. Path of Exile has never been casual-friendly, and most longtime players (not all, but most) don’t want it to be. They’re just hoping for a proper update that stays true to the original game. Only time will tell...

There's nothing more casual than people calling PoE 2 too hard. PoE 1 is "hardcore" only from a knowledge standpoint, where most of it is false depth and needless complexity. From a gameplay standpoint PoE 1 and entire genre is casual to the wall, and PoE 2 at least pushes a bit in the other direction.

The 'souls-like' comparisons have gotten way out of hand. Just because we have a skill designed to manually dodge monster attacks, does not make PoE 2 a 'souls' game.

PoE 1 has de-evolved into a 'one button explode screen' gameplay mess and people need to detox from this.

Just in Act 1, boss & rare fights are more fun than 95% of PoE 1 content.

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Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 wrote:

There's nothing more casual than people calling PoE 2 too hard. PoE 1 is "hardcore" only from a knowledge standpoint, where most of it is false depth and needless complexity. From a gameplay standpoint PoE 1 and entire genre is casual to the wall, and PoE 2 at least pushes a bit in the other direction.

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You've barely played poe 1, but you position yourself as an expert.

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chanlinexile#5722 wrote:

Please fix this is not fun at all.

"You" as who? I didn't ask for remake of PoE1, there is already a game like that... PoE1.

Why the hell would GGG make another same game if they plan to support the first one?

Why can't people who don't enjoy how easy PoE1 is get their game to play? Why do you have to ruin the game we like because you want "better graphics" of the game that you already have?

Answer me these and I'll agree.

I'm an old gamer. I've played Demon Souls and Dark Souls, but those aren't my cup of tea. I also played D1 & D2 and expansions. This reminds me of those games. They weren't hyperkinetic.

Just my thought.

I wholeheartedly reject being spoken for in this thread's title. The game is super fun. It imporves pretty much everything I dislike about PoE1 and I really, really like PoE1.