PoE is better than D2...

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JahIthBer89 wrote:

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allbusiness wrote:

You replied with an incredibly general statement and now you're trying to use personal experience as evidence. I've played this game longer then you have and have poured thousands of more hours into it, and I haven't even gotten a single drop that has come even close to a Lionseye Glare, let alone something like Shavs. My personal experience trumps yours right because I've been playing longer? If we're gonna play the game of "let's use personal experience to validate my argument" I'm gonna win that one.

Ever consider that perhaps it's not the game, but you that's doing it wrong?

I mean we see a lot of the same top guys staying on top league after league. They stream, their wealth is accounted for (so no RMT-BS claims), many of them come up with the top builds, they just know what they're doing.

Are you trying to say they just get very lucky every time they log on?

Oh and what a "comprehensive experience" those never ending boss runs were huh? The only thing that kept D2 alive for so long was dueling and the underground economy, whether you knew about it or not. PvM was so easy, did you really think the best items in the game had value because people wanted to run baal .0001% faster?

Ah also, funny little thing to think about. Blizzard may not have balanced the game around an economy (although that's a bit of a stretch too). But they certainly balanced it around duping. Diablo clone was literally a sink for duped SoJs. Not to mention the runewords coming out from 1.10 onward. Which required a minimum of 2 items (high runes) that were each more rare than any of the rarest items in this game BY FAR. They fully expected them to be duped and circulated. Not everyone could dupe, but everyone could certainly trade duped items. They knew this from the get-go. If that isn't balancing around an economy, I don't know what is.

LOL.

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Ah yes.. People do better than you so they're cheaters.

Anyone who is leveling beyond level 90 will get rich simply by playing so much and constantly doing high quantity maps. If you're the first to do so then you're going to get rich very quickly. It's a snowball effect.

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kasub wrote:

Ah yes.. People do better than you so they're cheaters.

Anyone who is leveling beyond level 90 will get rich simply by playing so much and constantly doing high quantity maps.

Within 2.5 weeks of a league where top level players like Etup are dying left and right, someone manages to scrape together multiple pieces of incredible gear that have a ridiculously small drop rate. Don't make me laugh. Just getting a 6L in the first 2 weeks or so of a league is pretty crazy, getting a 6L with offcolored chromes onto basically the best ES chest piece in the game is just ridiculous. On top of said gear, person also has an Axium (another low drop rate piece of gear), Bino's, 500 ES shield, along with other pieces of rares/uniques with incredibly low drop rates (CoE, Rainbowstrides, etc.)

All that gear is a lot cheaper at the start of leagues. Some players are reaching 95+ at the start of leagues and get to set initial prices of a lot of items.

As for your specific example I don't know the person, he might RMT or he might not. You however generalized ALL top players as cheaters just because they constantly get great results. In some of those cases they're fulltime streamers who you can very easily witness as they build their wealth. I don't really care about this indirect rmt BS. You can accuse 100% of people who trade with "indirect rmt" by that logic which negates its point.

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kasub wrote:

All that gear is a lot cheaper at the start of leagues. Some players are reaching 95+ at the start of leagues and get to set initial prices of a lot of items.

As for your specific example I don't know the person, he might RMT or he might not. You however generalized ALL top players as cheaters just because they constantly get great results. In some of those cases they're fulltime streamers who you can very easily witness as they build their wealth. I don't really care about this indirect rmt BS. You can accuse 100% of people who trade with "indirect rmt" by that logic which negates its point.

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The specific example I listed is someone who has gear that is basically impossible to obtain legitimately at least within the timeframe I'm talking about. [Removed by Support]

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kasub wrote:

All that gear is a lot cheaper at the start of leagues. Some players are reaching 95+ at the start of leagues and get to set initial prices of a lot of items.

As for your specific example I don't know the person, he might RMT or he might not. You however generalized ALL top players as cheaters just because they constantly get great results. In some of those cases they're fulltime streamers who you can very easily witness as they build their wealth. I don't really care about this indirect rmt BS. You can accuse 100% of people who trade with "indirect rmt" by that logic which negates its point.

[Removed by Support] that ggg is and has been soft on it. The most you'll get is some generic ggg response saying if you know of rmt activity report to support etc etc and many people have yet they do nothing about it.

Getting consistently good results to the level they get is statistically impossible. But that's why the ladders are a joke in PoE and many don't pay any attention to them.

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GeorgAnatoly wrote:

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kasub wrote:

All that gear is a lot cheaper at the start of leagues. Some players are reaching 95+ at the start of leagues and get to set initial prices of a lot of items.

As for your specific example I don't know the person, he might RMT or he might not. You however generalized ALL top players as cheaters just because they constantly get great results. In some of those cases they're fulltime streamers who you can very easily witness as they build their wealth. I don't really care about this indirect rmt BS. You can accuse 100% of people who trade with "indirect rmt" by that logic which negates its point.

[Removed by Support] that ggg is and has been soft on it. The most you'll get is some generic ggg response saying if you know of rmt activity report to support etc etc and many people have yet they do nothing about it.

Getting consistently good results to the level they get is statistically impossible. But that's why the ladders are a joke in PoE and many don't pay any attention to them.

Bro, didn't you know, you're shitty if you can't get Shavs/CoE/Binos/500 ES Chest/Perfect Rolled ES Ammy/etc. within 2.5 weeks of a league's start.


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allbusiness wrote:

Bro, didn't you know, you're shitty if you can't get Shavs/CoE/Binos/500 ES Chest/Perfect Rolled ES Ammy/etc. within 2.5 weeks of a league's start.


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I'm not here to try to say RMT isn't real, but c'mon. Are [Removed by support] all bullshit just because they have better shit than you? [Removed by Support] very little time to get a character together that demolishes 78 maps, [Removed by Support]

You also ignored my bit about D2, and the fact that RMT and duping took over that game to the point where blizz started designing content around it. But fuck it right? D2 was wayyy better, because D2...

This is coming from a guy who played A LOT more D2 than you, guaranteed.

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JahIthBer89 wrote:

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allbusiness wrote:

Bro, didn't you know, you're shitty if you can't get Shavs/CoE/Binos/500 ES Chest/Perfect Rolled ES Ammy/etc. within 2.5 weeks of a league's start.


I'll retract SOME of my comments. [Removed by Support]

I'm not here to try to say RMT isn't real, but c'mon. Are [Removed by support] all bullshit just because they have better shit than you? [Removed by Support] very little time to get a character together that demolishes 78 maps, [Removed by Support]

You also ignored my bit about D2, and the fact that RMT and duping took over that game to the point where blizz started designing content around it. But fuck it right? D2 was wayyy better, because D2...

This is coming from a guy who played A LOT more D2 than you, guaranteed.

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Most of those guys play with other people who front the costs for entry into maps early on. The guy fronting the costs typically is the guy that is RMTing or botting, or doing something that is outside of the game. So yeah, they are pretty much engaging in it in some form or fashion. Before you say shit like "THEY PLAY LEGIT", please realize that I'm not saying they are engaging directly in RMTing, but they are still helping out RMTers nonetheless, or benefiting from RMTing (they wouldn't be able to play in said maps so early on if someone didn't pay the entry fee would they?)

I said I never found something like a Lionseye Glare self-found, not that I actually couldn't scrape enough currency to afford one. Good reading comprehension skills, go back to high school thanks br0ski.


Blizzard implemented one new aspect way down the road to combat botting and duping. Oh woopty doo. That's not the same as GGG designing and balancing all orb and item drop rates, linking, socketing, entry costs to higher level maps, etc. all around the 'economy.' The reason why I ignored your comment is because it's stupid to compare; Blizzard didn't design Diablo 2 from the ground up around the economy. GGG designed PoE from the ground up that way. Two, totally, different fucking things.


You played more Diablo 2 then me? I was one of the first US players to reach 99. Good fucking luck beating that [Removed by Support]. I was 99 literally a week and a half after GerBarb and RusBarb reached 99, and still to this day play Diablo 2 and various mods on it (mostly Median XL Ultimative). So yeah, unless you're fucking old as I am, I seriously doubt you have as much Diablo 2 time invested as me.



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