EIGHTY SIX GIGABYTES (86) no matter how good it looks and sounds its bloat guaranteed

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

it is perfectly ok to be less efficient

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randrew#4970 wrote:

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

it is perfectly ok to be less efficient

No, it is not.

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

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randrew#4970 wrote:

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

it is perfectly ok to be less efficient

No, it is not.

Yes, it is. Shall we keep going in circles? You're wrong.

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randrew#4970 wrote:

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Hmm. I'm going to just say it though. Compressing games isn't easy.

I don't give a poop about compression. I don't know why you ramble on about compression. I want the game to be < 30 gigs, I do not care about the details how this is achieved.

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

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randrew#4970 wrote:

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

it is perfectly ok to be less efficient

No, it is not.

Yes, it is. Shall we keep going in circles? You're wrong.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

That's how it's achieved though.

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 wrote:

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ElfBoy#4652 wrote:

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randrew#4970 wrote:

Personally, if in my company my head of tech would present to me an install size of over 30 GB I would classify that as a failure to deliver and it would have the following consequences:

1) I would fire the head of tech and every tenth in the tech department
2) I would hire competent people

But I don't run GGG. So we're at ...paper rustling... 92.96 GB.

As someone who has been in the working world close to 45 years, including at some notable and large corporations, I am not sure you really understand how the world in general and businesses in specific work.

For example, and install of what? A typical browser based side scroller? Lode Runner 2024? Or Elder Scrolls 6? Or did you mean for POE 2?

30gb is almost nothing on a modern computer. I have 25 tb of storage inside my main computer, another 12 tb on my local network, and 6tb between my old and new laptops. More, I suspect, than the average person, certainly less than some who are much more into high quality Audio and Video or use their system to work on such (among other tasks).

Heck, even my phone has 256gb of storage.

As tech advances we will, I suspect, come to adopt 8k monitors (7680*4320) vs our 4k (3840*2160) or even 1k (1920*1080) monitors which will make those high res textures take up 16x the space of 1k vs the mere 4x we get with 4k.

I've seen decently good 4 tb NVME drives in the ~$250 (us) range recently and with rumors that DRAM/HBM and possibly flash memory prices will drop in 2025, prices could get even lower.

This all leads me to not understand the bias against an 86.6gb (on my main system) install size. As others have posted many other games use much more disk space.

Looking at the install folder I see the executable is 64107 kb with a second x64 at 495 kb along with some .dll's totaling ~95k kb. 75.9gb of the install is in the FMOD folder which has 3096 .bank files and 1 .bin, which are audio. The Art folder only uses 2.39gb. At a guess we are already using the low res or highly compressed textures.

So, please, by all means, educate me. Use specifics and details and help me understand. To be clear I say this sincerely and not sarcastically. I am perfectly happy to accept other view points as valid even when I do not hold said views myself.

he wants $300/h for that expertise.
cant figure out how to put a $75 m.2 in his steam deck though.

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randrew#4970 wrote:

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

That's how it's achieved though.

That may be one of many options to achieve it. There's also other options, the most obvious one: ship less crap. Diablo 4 for example ships their hirez textures (45 GB!) as an optional DLC. Problem -> Solution. (Diablo IV still sits at 68 gigs even without the hirez textures so I am not satisfied but it is a start).

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ElfBoy#4652 wrote:

I can very much appreciate having limitations based on your available hardware.

I also have had many times in my life where my budget sucks more than a hover.

A quick search of Amazon found some off brand NVME 2230 drives as low as ~$130us, named brand at ~$160 for 2 tb, with ~$30 for 1 tb for a name brand drive. Any 2230 nvme's I am seeing at 4tb are pricy. Of course prices are highly volatile for any kind of computer parts. Installing a new drive means installing the Steam OS and re-installing all games/apps - still might be worth it if storage space is super tight.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Hmm, so, would you like the game to be half the size then, half the content?

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randrew#4970 wrote:

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Hmm, so, would you like the game to be half the size then, half the content?

If half the content apparently is high resolution textures, yes!