Experience loss driving some players away?

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derbefrier wrote:

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FadeXF wrote:

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e7ang wrote:

Why does a game have to only cater to a certain group of gamers? POE can VERY easily cater to everyone. They created all types of customs leagues for the races. Why not a league for people who simply want to face roll content. I don't see the harm. It's not like hardcore or default leagues would be affected at all.

Forza is a perfect example of a game that caters to all types of gamers. From my 5 year old nieces to my hardcore car enthusiast dad.

Catering to only a select group of gamers is not only bad business, but bad game design.

I'm convinced that people actually believe that somehow it waters down "their" side of the game - be it hardcore or whatever - even though the heart of this game is a "LEAGUE" system which could facilitate ANYBODIES play style... pick a league that suites you and play it up!

I dunno - people become morally offended if you dislike only a certain few aspects of the game like:

1) Experience loss on death
2) Extreme RNG issues on socketing, coloring, even crafting - everything is rng rng rng rng rng - with slim to no chances of ever getting what you actually want
3) Terrible drop rates

I guess that hurts people's feelings to think that there could be a league that has no death loss penalties - a better base chance of getting 4->6Ls, color combinations on items, and also that has a better drop rate on orbs. Somehow that impacts their very existence on this planet or something. ><


EDIT: and to the OP - it absolutely is driving players away. I can't be bothered - I tried... I was going to make a dual totem CI witch, and made it to about level 18 and I was like: well what if THIS character (like the 5-8th level 70+ I've made) doesn't function well for me late 70s - into level 80s? Late game has absolutely nothing to do with leveling specs period. You can't "practice" with specs - and so you have to gear out properly, and level, and spent a LOAD of time only to find out it just doesn't work for you... something is off... soak up a few deaths at level 75+ and notice that you can't progress 5-10 maps for 1 death negates all that time. So what's the point, really? Not worth it. Will hold off until some of these items are fixed up... I hate "working" in games like in POE it's pretty evident you need a 2nd life to play it successfully.

lol you just dont understand. Maybe someday when you get a game you love and have to watch as community members like you slowly tear it apart over the years by demanding casual features until its a hollow shell of its former self you understand that people like you use this "i just want options" rouse as a way to get what you want which will ultimately end up with a game so boring, and bland the only people left playing it are teenagers and kids who don't know any better, WoW is a perfect example of this. you people are never satisfied. Your like locusts moving from game to game sucking the soul out of them then telling the developers they are bad when there only mistake was listening to you.

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Bloodygrey wrote:

XP loss limits the player base especially where there is so many other alternatives. Anyone remember EQ ? at its peak it had a 250k+ playerbase. However that went down to far far less when the competitors came in , look at WoW, 10 million plus. Lets be honest, the next D4 or the next Torchlight or Grimdawn is gonna look at what POE does well and simply adapt and do it without the drawbacks of the "Hardcore" aspects. Again that is up to the devs to decide what their target playerbase is . I personally think little of the current state of WOW playerbase. They will not be able to play themselves out of a wet paperbag let alone a game with harsh penalties and no hand holding but they are the vast majority of the internet gaming base.

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keighbanger wrote:

Really enjoy this game but the death penalty... Email me if you ever remove it! Until Then Cya Later!!