Experience loss driving some players away?

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SL4Y3R wrote:

So you honestly think losing a portal is a good penalty;? There's 6 portals, meaning you think its okay to die 5 times in a map. That's absurd.

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So you honestly think losing a portal is a good penalty;? There's 6 portals, meaning you think its okay to die 5 times in a map. That's absurd.

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Mooginator wrote:

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GhostlightX wrote:

12 hours play at level 90 would hardly even visibly move your Exp bar.

The above statement lends even more merit to the absurdity of an experience punishment system. It takes the player so long to reach max level regardless of any punishment, an average gamer is much more likely to get frustrated/sick of the game and walk away because they feel stalled/unable to progress.

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Mooginator wrote:

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Undon3 wrote:

Thing is, we have no idea how many players are annoyed by the XP penalty, and how many quit or are considering quitting because of it.

This statement encapsulates exactly what this thread is about. I can personally attest I know people who will not play this game solely because of the penalty, which is really a punishment.

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People are tired of losing time, energy and effort when playing a game, and will play other games they can enjoy without being punished.

I also wish to point out not a single person has provided any form of legitimate reason supporting the experience punishment mechanic.

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GhostlightX wrote:

12 hours play at level 90 would hardly even visibly move your Exp bar.

The above statement lends even more merit to the absurdity of an experience punishment system. It takes the player so long to reach max level regardless of any punishment, an average gamer is much more likely to get frustrated/sick of the game and walk away because they feel stalled/unable to progress.

Blizzard Entertainment made the following important statement regarding the Death Penalty in Diablo 3:

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Blizzard wrote:

Taking gold away from people, or taking a full level of experience away, yeah, that’s a wake up call. It’s also the quickest way to get someone to uninstall the game. A very select few people will put up with something like that. It’s fine in Diablo II because gold has almost no use, but imagine if it did. You’d be encouraged through the mechanic to grind in easier areas where you’re sure you couldn’t die just so you could earn gold safely. That sounds terrible. Without a gold penalty you can play the content you want to play and meanwhile you’re finding items and amounts of gold that are relevant. That sounds like fun.

Source: http://www.diablowiki.net/Death

It is also important to state Diablo 2 had a 10% experience penalty upon death with 75% recovery when you got back to your body, so ultimately a 2.5% penalty. PoE currently takes SIX TIMES that amount, and is a much more complex/difficult game than Diablo 2. Once again, the death punishment system in PoE is undeniably absurd.

Once again, there is already a mechanic built into the game to prevent reckless play (the purpose of a "death penalty") - it is the map portal system which only allows a limited number of re-entries into a map (die too much and you can't go back!); and given maps are required for end-game, players must play them. There is no need for any death penalty system in this game because of the map portal mechanic. It really is that simple.

I would like to hear something from GGG regarding this issue.

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Nazd3sucks wrote:

PoE is not a "Auto Pilot" type of game, you don't just click buttons and progress it requires research, knowledge it requires freaking thinking something almost all games now a days lack. So if it drives people away, it is most likely a good thing because they are mindless auto pilot gamers we don't want them here.