5-way service and voidstone carry service need nerf

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Pashid wrote:

Level 100 was something special versions and years ago, but today it's nothing special anymore even without 5way.


But the topic sounds like a fomo issue. Simply don't use a 5way service if you don't like it and want to level up in your own.
5way is just nice for those who have leveled up more than enough characters to 100 in the past leagues. Not everyone is interested to level up to 100 by hand every league over and over again, or spend even more time with leveling up alts. Making currency is easier and faster after all and it sure gives you more time to enjoy a character with all skill points sooner than later.

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stalkingjackal wrote:

5 way service is just trading, and if you want that gone then say goodbye to trading as well.

There will always be an optimal way to grind xp and there will be a service centered around that. If its not 5 way, it will be breachstones or beachhead rotations and people will sell the runs and others would buy them.

Its how an economy works, so either get used to it or go play ssf.

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stalkingjackal wrote:

5 way service is just trading, and if you want that gone then say goodbye to trading as well.

There will always be an optimal way to grind xp and there will be a service centered around that. If its not 5 way, it will be breachstones or beachhead rotations and people will sell the runs and others would buy them.

Its how an economy works, so either get used to it or go play ssf.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

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stalkingjackal wrote:

5 way service is just trading, and if you want that gone then say goodbye to trading as well.

There will always be an optimal way to grind xp and there will be a service centered around that. If its not 5 way, it will be breachstones or beachhead rotations and people will sell the runs and others would buy them.

Its how an economy works, so either get used to it or go play ssf.

It doesn't matter if there's going to be an optimal way no matter what.

It's about how much and how fast, Keeping it within the realms of reason.

Also i see your highest ssf is 98, thats pretty nice, are you proud of that?
I'm proud of my 97 from trade, It was by no means difficult rather it was exhausting.

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stalkingjackal wrote:

5 way service is just trading, and if you want that gone then say goodbye to trading as well.

There will always be an optimal way to grind xp and there will be a service centered around that. If its not 5 way, it will be breachstones or beachhead rotations and people will sell the runs and others would buy them.

Its how an economy works, so either get used to it or go play ssf.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

When it comes to achievements from killing bosses or leveling a character to 100, it's essentially non-existent nowadays. Everything can be bought and everything can be AFKd without a meaningful cost.

You can have a level 60 character with nothing but Tabula and achieve level 100 with all Uber bosses killed while having the game minimized and not attacking even once. This can be done essentially for free if you're leveling gems and selling your drops.

My proposals:
Remove Voidstone carries or require at least 15% damage done to the boss
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Nerf 5-way XP to a level where it's faster to level with active gameplay such as Beachhead 15

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Warwipf wrote:

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stalkingjackal wrote:

5 way service is just trading, and if you want that gone then say goodbye to trading as well.

There will always be an optimal way to grind xp and there will be a service centered around that. If its not 5 way, it will be breachstones or beachhead rotations and people will sell the runs and others would buy them.

Its how an economy works, so either get used to it or go play ssf.

It's not about the service itself, it is about how incredibly efficient the service is. It's just too strong. I don't mind it being in the game, but it's just way too fast. Nothing else even comes anywhere close.