The new battle pass is really gross

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

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Glorfndel01 wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

Classic F2P techniques, or phycology if you like. I've always praised GGG for holding this to a minimum in-game. Those days seem gone. Very sad about this.

I don't like what's behind the door they've just opened.

I admit I don't get the MTX and "battle pass" attraction, but the way to avoid deceptive shit like this is to not buy them in the first place and let someone else be the greater fool - and there will always be that guy out there

Basically the purpose of a battle pass, and this isn't limited to gacha since a lot of GaaS games have them, is to give players a reason to feel that they need to commit to playing by offering rewards to do so. In PoE's case the paid version might be the idea that somebody sees a cosmetic they want but it is in the later part of the pass so they would still need to play more to make sure they get what they paid for (other games usually just have more P2W in the paid portion).

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DragonSound wrote:

Foot-in-the-door (FITD) technique is a compliance tactic that aims at getting a person to agree to a large request by having him or her agree to a modest request first.
this is your battle pass now, you force a ui element on the screen that can not be removed until I go to vault and am forced to see the other reward I need to pay to have.
This is extremely gross, it's a layer of filth and grime PoE does not need.

The fact Chris is adamant about not changing the ui to convince the player, to centralize information in any way, but you have no problem chaging the ui when you want to sell me something, is so telling.

I would love to know what GGG would have said 10 years ago about adding new ui buttons only to monetize off your player base.

You guys should be ashamed.

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RitualMurder wrote:

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DragonSound wrote:

Foot-in-the-door (FITD) technique is a compliance tactic that aims at getting a person to agree to a large request by having him or her agree to a modest request first.
this is your battle pass now, you force a ui element on the screen that can not be removed until I go to vault and am forced to see the other reward I need to pay to have.
This is extremely gross, it's a layer of filth and grime PoE does not need.

The fact Chris is adamant about not changing the ui to convince the player, to centralize information in any way, but you have no problem chaging the ui when you want to sell me something, is so telling.

I would love to know what GGG would have said 10 years ago about adding new ui buttons only to monetize off your player base.

You guys should be ashamed.

lets be real here its a tencent decision and i guarantee its makes them money
and really its a company they are here to make money not some generous benefactor with infinite funds making this game out of the goodness of their hearts

that being said if they spent more time of the mechanic most would care less about it being implemented. We get some free stuff so that they can rub our nose is what isnt free.
im fine with that i dont have impulse control issues or fomo issues, but it being released alongside this sad and poorly optimized boring mechanic is a bit.... odd

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Xyel wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

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DragonSound wrote:

Foot-in-the-door (FITD) technique is a compliance tactic that aims at getting a person to agree to a large request by having him or her agree to a modest request first.
this is your battle pass now, you force a ui element on the screen that can not be removed until I go to vault and am forced to see the other reward I need to pay to have.
This is extremely gross, it's a layer of filth and grime PoE does not need.

The fact Chris is adamant about not changing the ui to convince the player, to centralize information in any way, but you have no problem chaging the ui when you want to sell me something, is so telling.

I would love to know what GGG would have said 10 years ago about adding new ui buttons only to monetize off your player base.

You guys should be ashamed.

lets be real here its a tencent decision and i guarantee its makes them money
and really its a company they are here to make money not some generous benefactor with infinite funds making this game out of the goodness of their hearts

that being said if they spent more time of the mechanic most would care less about it being implemented. We get some free stuff so that they can rub our nose is what isnt free.
im fine with that i dont have impulse control issues or fomo issues, but it being released alongside this sad and poorly optimized boring mechanic is a bit.... odd

You give tencent too much credit imo. I don't think they have anything to really do with our version of the game or GGG. If they did, we wouldn't be having the ruthless push that we are having right now.

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RitualMurder wrote:

ruthless seems tailor made for china....

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Xyel wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

ruthless seems tailor made for china....

Nah. Ruthless is tailor made for Chris, it's his vision of how he wishes the game was.

On a speculative note, the current ruthless push is almost certainly a test for PoE 2 balance, imo because Chris wants it a lot more ruthless-like than what others would find reasonable.

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RitualMurder wrote:

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Xyel wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

ruthless seems tailor made for china....

Nah. Ruthless is tailor made for Chris, it's his vision of how he wishes the game was.

On a speculative note, the current ruthless push is almost certainly a test for PoE 2 balance, imo because Chris wants it a lot more ruthless-like than what others would find reasonable.

well 0 streamers are even considering the event so....