It's time for GGG to take back reigns of trade for the sake of the game
" mmmmm i love u ggg, but we havent forgotten this, and we will never forget this. 3rd party stuff like tft plays a role and im completely fine with 3rd party stuffs, with communities, i think its great. but if people are actually rmting you need to get your shit together and ban them, because u told us you made this game the way it is in order to make items and the feeling of value sacrosanct, and this is eroding confidence in this games item system on a widespread level. i dont wanna hear hard to prove, if u KNOW theyre doing it then end it. if. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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GGG can't do anything. They already made their decision that he's 100% innocent. Do I think all the currency they've ever made is still on their accounts or was charitably given away? No lol. But it doesn't matter. GGG made their decision and they have no choice to but to stand by it for all eternity. Without GGG dropping a verdict there's no proof of anything so there's no story here. Of course the two people who made the bow (who are not TFT mods/owners) will be banned by GGG, but that doesn't implicate TFT. They just sold the copies and collected the fees.
GGG does do a lot of RMT bans. The community of 5-way sellers is almost exclusively RMT sellers (because the currency is so consistently good) and they routinely get banned and come back on different accounts. On a free game there's only so much they can do. |
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" no, they its their game they can do what they want. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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I personally feel that a service like Tft is needed they perform a role generally outside the scope of the game itself, something that is present in many games much like destiny2 Lfg. However tft is more than just an Lfg service and bc it’s just a discord anyone could have created they aren’t held to the same standards as what a company is and they don’t have to answer to anyone with regards to the treatment of their members.
What tft are doing is personal and that’s just not how you go about running a business or company. Imagine if ggg operated in the same way, kalandra league would’ve had more than half the playerbase banned for speaking ill of the product and the practices. So despite tft being a separate entity, as an affiliate of the game that has a considerable amount of power and influence that can directly and indirectly affect an individual’s experience playing the game they should uphold the same values,integrity and standards that the game developers have to adhere to and not allow an individual or group to make decisions based on personal feelings. What is obvious is that tft has grown immensely and as it gets larger it becomes increasingly important to an individual, almost to a point of feeling mandatory for ppl playing the game. I don’t even feel like playing anymore now that I cannot use this service. But I will not allow them to hold me to ransom by dictating who I can or cannot associate with in an online video game in order to use this service. And don’t even get me started on the allegations of rmt against them. I believe ggg needs to have someone responsible with authority to make sure that these 3rd party affiliates are conducting themselves in a manner that they themselves do or provide the services themselves directly. Surely it wouldn’t be hard for the developers to create their own discord that provides these services at the very least. |
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" I have to disagree on this partially. Having auction house for commodities would mean you would have monopoly on it by interest groups 100%. They can already do this with some effort and it would be stupidly easy if you could insta buy stuff. I'd could see it could maybe work for white/blue/yellow items only, but there would be also problems with that. I get it why they won't implement auction house but that doesn't mean we couldn't have better trade site or that they shouldn't vigorously ban for rmt, which apparently isn't so vigorous at all. People rmt all the time. I have even noticed some random players on forum this league alone. It's getting out of hand, especially as the bar for progression is set somewhat higher than before. It wasn't this bad few years back or I think it wasn't. |
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" If it's a commodity and speed for everyone, it's literally impossible to have monopoly on it. If there's hundreds of people live searching for something, it's up to chance who gets it first. " Alright Mr. Defendant, we now have proof you committed the most heinous crime in history, but since the previous verdict was innocent and we didn't have reviewed the previous information well enough, you're innocent for eternity. Case dismissed. Ruthless should be [Removed by Support]. Last edited by AdRonZh3Ro#4713 on Feb 15, 2023, 6:52:42 PM
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GGG can't change their position now. They banned him, manually reviewed it, and unbanned him. If RMT activity was occurring there is zero chance it started less than 11 months ago. GGG would be admitting that they knew it was happening but made the choice to give their full and complete support to the (alleged) largest RMT operation in all of PoE! They can never do that lol. They can't use the "whoopsies we're just a small indie company haha these things happen" excuse either as nobody would believe that in a million years. The reputation of the entire company would be flushed down the toilet.
The conspiracy will live forever and we'll never know whether it's true or false unless there's a paper trail. Two non-TFT people and a former TFT person saying that TFT is an RMT organization is not evidence. |
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Pretty sure it's 2 High End TFT and their competitor, which TFT is purposefully banning from their server for even being connected to him or speaking to him. Do you really think that someone guilty would censure anyone? They would give hard dick proof that they were innocent instead, which is far from the current case.
Plus, do you really think they would purposefully funnel everything into one account? There's enough proof that they use mule accounts, which would be fucking hell for gx3 to sift through. And again, if someone steals and there isn't enough proof, doesn't mean they can't get busted for stealing again. Asserting "nothing can be done" is the most politician bullshit excuse there can possible ever exist, and that's a fact. It's better to act right late than be compliant with trash. Also, there may really be a compelling reason that they couldn't get reasonable data to assert guilt. Chris alredy said multiple times he hates to gather data. We also don't know what data they actually gather and how it's visualized. For all we know, it could be extremely difficult, as i said before, to sift through. As for their reputation, it's alredy been damaged, and it will only worsen if they remain silent about it. " The problem isn't the services, it's the mirror tier shop and all the currency it generates, which wouldn't make sense for gx3 to officially meddle in. Ruthless should be [Removed by Support]. Last edited by AdRonZh3Ro#4713 on Feb 15, 2023, 7:54:41 PM
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whatever the reputation of the company is it includes chris admitting that his friend who was a private shareholder in ggg at the time was running rmt sites while also colluding with ggg to help shut down competing rmt sites.
if you dont have enough evidence to be happy deciding someone has committed an offence, then you get more evidence you can absolutely go back and change your evaluation. its been 11 months, thats 11 months of in game logs and activity going on that wasnt looked at last time. they can do whatever they want to do and they dont have to explain to anyone what they were basing their previous decisions or their new decisions on. i dont think ggg banning a bunch of high level cheaters is going to ruin their rep, if anything it will go some way to repairing their highly questionable reputation on the rmt front. whats destroying their rep is their history and their perceived lack of action on these things. no ones gonna cry tears for high level cheaters warping the economy at the expense of the rest of us, IF thats what they are. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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" No. At that point market is already cornered. Monopoly isn't the right word as you can't control supply. Better term would be price fixing. As interest group could buy out whole listings in some moment of something that is in low supply and put whatever price they want. Point is, with auction house it would be very easy to manipulate market. No one want's that to happen. |
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