For the love of god can we have a in game auction system?
" "Nothing has changed, no need to revisit" - Only twenty leagues or so later... And the argument that GGG could have been wrong from the start. It's not like some serious debate has ever been hold on this. GGG put out their arguments and that's it. It's not like we get a reply to our arguments or counter-arguments. Usually if you get ignored in a debate you should be declared the winner. |
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" Will you call PETA, or should I? " Hah! Good one. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Jan 29, 2023, 11:04:29 AM
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" I'll give them a ring. They're a very reasonable group and I'm sure they'll handle the virtual destruction of a horse very responsibly. " I also think it's funny @Noooova describes what is going on here as a debate. This is more a statement of why things are this way, and why they will likely stay this way. There is no debate to be had on this topic anymore. And certainly nothing new has been said in this thread to even consider opening up a new debate on the matter. I'll probably have a better "debate" with PETA about a virtual horse being wrecked in a pointless answered and re-answered thread :) Thanks for all the fish! Last edited by Nubatron#4333 on Jan 29, 2023, 11:17:53 AM
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" Name one ARPG that hadn't successful AH. With arguments and explanation. I personally haven't played many ARPG's. I played D3 before and don't consider it's AH experience as unsuccessful. Me and my friends back there didn't really talk about it. It was ok, it worked, it served its purposes. They say that people used to spent more time checking AH than killing mobs in D3. For me it's not true. Actually here in POE i spent far more time checking trade site than i did in D3 AH. Curiosity is followed by ambition. Ambition is followed by madness.
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" Close to "all of them". Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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" No debate has taken place in terms of community vs GGG, that's the point. Apparently you are deluding yourself that some form of serious debate has taken place within the community however and somehow your side has won (your side being in line with GGG's stance). I guess what happened is that all that you did was reading comments that stated what you are thinking as well and who's commentors disagree with all counter-arguments thrown at them. That's not your side having won however, that's just your bias. That's also not even taking into account that most players want a better trade system but just can't agree what it should look like... So your side is also the minority. The minority with questionable arguments, who's leader doesn't even chime into the debate - lol. Nice manifesto btw. bro, doesn't bolster your arguments in it one freaking bit. Last edited by Noooova#6275 on Jan 29, 2023, 11:46:30 AM
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Something that would have similar effects, and would be easier to implement ( I guess), would be a system that allows you to just accept the trade, when someone whispers you for an item. Regardless of where you are ingame.
There would be way less frustration for buyers (and maybe for sellers too), because sellers wouldn't have to leave their map / run whatever... and both parties would be satisfied. You could also easily spot price fixers, because they most likely would be the only ones not to accept trades. Since we already have a mechanic implemented, that identifies the item, the buyer is asking for, and marks it in the stash... I guess just having a small popup to confirm the trade, would not be too much to implement. |
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" Asking for specific answer from other people, but not willing to give one yourself? Curiosity is followed by ambition. Ambition is followed by madness.
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" I did answer; close to ALL ARPG's have had a non-successful AH, mostly because 99% of them was smart enough to not implement one in the first place. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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First off, we do not need auction. We need market place, like a shop. Auction is very easy abusable.
Auction and marketplace ARE NOT the same. Check Wiki for the definition of these terms. Auction is a place where buyers competes for the price offering higher and higher price over time over some period. Feel the difference. It is very easy to make the price highest by offering fake price from fake accounts (bots). Screw this. The second - we do not need market place. Faster / easier trading means GGG will NERF drop rates and it will affect non-traders. So you basically propose to nerf non-traders and buff traders, the people who can make currency not interacting with content. " Fortunately this will never happen. This thread is dedicated to the tears of botters, scammers, abusers and to the ppl who don't like the game itself. Last edited by cursorTarget#1174 on Jan 29, 2023, 5:25:48 PM
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