p2w content

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

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LordExile3000 wrote:

That's not what I meant at all. What kind of stupidity? I wrote that the farm lab pays only for the TFT cartel. Because no matter what the price is for these Gifts, they will always be in the black. They don't need to worry about buying bases, because their customers have already done it. They don't waste time and resources on it. They are free from this burdensome occupation. Whereas ordinary players have to do all this all the time, without having orders. Thus, this content is available only to the formed cartel.
For other players who are not related to the cartel, this content becomes unavailable at this price. Because most enchants are absolute garbage or will be sold for a very long time, just taking up space in the inventory. Whereas the cartel people don't have that problem. Their work is put on the conveyor and there is no need to worry about anything.

How is any part of this Pay to Win, though? Nobody has to pay to use the TFT discord server...

As I said, this is part of the social privilege. Please read my other messages, I will not write to each of you the same thing every time.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

Then why not shift your expectations to something more realistic? Buy an enchanted base and craft with it. Fossils, essences, and harvest crafts are far more accessible and even farmable.

There have already been proposals to start farming Blight, there have also been proposals to start farming trials on tha maps. Now I get an offer to start crafting items. Maybe stop trolling with stupidity? This is forbidden on the forum.

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LordExile3000 wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

Then why not shift your expectations to something more realistic? Buy an enchanted base and craft with it. Fossils, essences, and harvest crafts are far more accessible and even farmable.

There have already been proposals to start farming Blight, there have also been proposals to start farming trials on tha maps. Now I get an offer to start crafting items. Maybe stop trolling with stupidity? This is forbidden on the forum.

I'll tell you what is forbidden on the forum since you love that so much.

You are claiming players who also are on TFT exploit p2w to unfairly corner the market on a commodity without any proof and money changing hands in any way. Do you know what that is called under forum rules? Defamation of character and that can get you banned. Keep this nonsense up and you're getting reported.

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LordExile3000 wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

Then why not shift your expectations to something more realistic? Buy an enchanted base and craft with it. Fossils, essences, and harvest crafts are far more accessible and even farmable.

There have already been proposals to start farming Blight, there have also been proposals to start farming trials on tha maps. Now I get an offer to start crafting items. Maybe stop trolling with stupidity? This is forbidden on the forum.

People suggesting how to farm Gifts yourself isn't trolling. You not being satisfied with suggestions on how to afford Gifts isn't trolling.

Just because people disagree that there's some stupid boogeyman about some "cartel" or P2W in TFT doesn't mean they're trolling. If that's what you really think, then report everyone on this thread and see where it gets you. As it stands, it sounds like you just made this thread to give nonconstructive feedback about why you can't afford to buy something in bulk, dressing it up with some irrational conspiracy with no evidence to support it, and only want an echo chamber of agreement without any kind of pushback.

That's not how this works.

What do you expect GGG to do about Gift to the Goddess being expensive? Do you really think they're going to put it back in Harvest just because you said so? They gutted it after 3.13 so that it's just another avenue for gambling, because GGG is more interested in their precious economy and forcing people to trade than what would be more fun for poor players.

The chances of them making Gifts more accessible to poor players is incredibly slim. Your best bet is to adapt to the new systems rather than thinking they're going to cater specifically to your demands simply because you made them.

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LordExile3000 wrote:

As I said, this is part of the social privilege. Please read my other messages, I will not write to each of you the same thing every time.

That's not what pay to win means, though.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

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LordExile3000 wrote:

As I said, this is part of the social privilege. Please read my other messages, I will not write to each of you the same thing every time.

That's not what pay to win means, though.

Social privileges elevate you above the rest, like money. So it's like P2W

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TemjinGold wrote:

You are claiming players who also are on THE exploit p2w to unfairly corner the market on a commodity without any proof and money changing hands in any way.

Did I really say that or is it your personal fantasy?

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Pizzarugi wrote:

Stop resisting, just give up!

Bad argument, I'll pass.

I don't care about the TFT cartel. Let them do what they want. I don't mind their existence. But I want the content to be available to everyone, not to a privileged part of the players. GGG should pay attention to this, and your lie has no force here. You ignored everything I wrote(I have listed the indisputable advantages that these players possess), instead I received only meaningless philosophical reflections.

This is a forum for reviews and here I left my review, you have no right to tell me to do anything.

Any trade....any single trade that you have ever made, or will ever make where you are the SELLER of an item, by your definition, is p2w.

WHY would anyone sell anything if they weren't making some sort of profit on it? There might be a very small minority that unloads things below what they are worth just to save time. But the "market value" of any item is ALWAYS going to leave the seller in the black. That is the very nature of a currency-based trade system. It is how ALL real-world transactions operate: people use currency to purchase goods produced by another person. That other person would NEVER produce the item unless they were covering and exceeding their input costs. Only item-to-item trade can be considered somewhat "even" on both sides.

I seriously think at this point that the OP is just a troll who is repeating the same thing over and over again because he has already accomplished his mission of getting a rise out of other people. I'm done feeding. This conversation has hurt my brain and wasted enough of my time.

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LordExile3000 wrote:

Social privileges elevate you above the rest, like money. So it's like P2W

No, it isn't. This is the most brazen false equivalency I've seen in a very long time, and the fact that you don't even seem to be ashamed of what you're doing is nothing short of alarming.