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TemjinGold wrote:

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LordExile3000 wrote:

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TorhanSacras wrote:

lol wut.

Just go farm Blight, I literally has 61 of them just chilling in my stash.

Is this trolling? Should I farm blight instead of doing labs?
In addition, you are confusing a default offering with a gift to the goddess.

>lol wut.
think with your head next time before writing nonsense

If you are too poor to afford Gifts but want them, YES YOU SHOULD FARM INSTEAD OF DOING LABS.

Recently I could buy 40 pieces for 40 div, a few days later the same amount is now worth 64 div. Do you understand what the point is, or will you just troll with stupidity? It is forbidden on this forum.

No one cares other than you. I feel sorry for you.

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LordExile3000 wrote:

Stop trolling with stupidity, this is prohibited by the rules of the forum.
I say that the current price of Gifts is available only for the privileged part of the players, which I call the TFT cartel.

This is simply not true. I barely if ever engage with TFT and I've already accumulated at least 22div worth of stuff in my stash. I just allocate atlas passives I like, buy some scarabs in bulk from official trade page which coincide with them, and just go. And I haven't even mentioned the untapped potential of wealth I've got from all of the Heist contracts and Black Scythe and Sun logbooks I haven't run yet. Tujen has always been a massive and consistent source of currency if you can handle the sheer difficulty of Expedition encounters.

If you're struggling to make currency, do the following:

1. Get Awakened PoE Trade. It's an overlay app that price checks items for you on the fly so you know whether the items you pick up are worth taking to stash or not.

2. Get Exilence Next. It's an app that can scan your selected stash tabs and retrieve the value of all of the items in them and the total value of the stash you may not realize you have. You can then determine what you don't need, sell it off, and use the currency towards more important things.

3. Figure out what atlas passives you want. Do you like Expedition? Grab the nodes for it. Essence? Grab those nodes. Metamorph, Legion, Breach, Blight? There's nodes for those. Focus on running encounters that you have allocated passives towards improving and block the rest if you can.

4. On the subject of atlas passives, if you want to find Gift to the Goddess yourself, there's even a passive that gives you 20% chance to get a labyrinth trial that drops an improved offering. You'll know if it has one when the portal is shinier than usual.

5. I can't stress this enough: Sell the stuff you're accumulating in your stash if you have no intention on using it yourself. The bulk of my wealth earlier came from well over a hundred shrieking/deafening essence I had sitting in my stash. I don't craft and find the whole thing to be frivolous gambling, so I sold them all. Currencies in my stash tab I don't use like the thousands of alts also build up value, and since I don't gamble, I sold it all as well. I bet you're sitting on several hundred Stacked Decks right now and don't even realize they're worth 1c each.

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LordExile3000 wrote:

Recently I could buy 40 pieces for 40 div, a few days later the same amount is now worth 64 div. Do you understand what the point is, or will you just troll with stupidity? It is forbidden on this forum.

That's what is called supply and demand. The so-called "TFT cartel" aren't the only ones who want to use Gifts to spam enchants on their gear and as such, the value of the item goes up. That's how this works. More people want the item than there are items in circulation, thus increasing its value. You yourself are contributing to that very same system. By your logic, you're now part of the mysterious cartel.

If Gifts dropped a lot more commonly, the value would drop.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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LordExile3000 wrote:

Recently I could buy 40 pieces for 40 div, a few days later the same amount is now worth 64 div. Do you understand what the point is, or will you just troll with stupidity? It is forbidden on this forum.

That's what is called supply and demand. The so-called "TFT cartel" aren't the only ones who want to use Gifts to spam enchants on their gear and as such, the value of the item goes up. That's how this works. More people want the item than there are items in circulation, thus increasing its value. You yourself are contributing to that very same system. By your logic, you're now part of the mysterious cartel.

If Gifts dropped a lot more commonly, the value would drop.

Oh, really? Thank you for the valuable information! ..why the hell did you write that to me? The point is that all this pays off ONLY for people from the TFT cartel. Do I need to write something else to make it clear to you? Why should I write the same thing to each of you?

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LordExile3000 wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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LordExile3000 wrote:

Recently I could buy 40 pieces for 40 div, a few days later the same amount is now worth 64 div. Do you understand what the point is, or will you just troll with stupidity? It is forbidden on this forum.

That's what is called supply and demand. The so-called "TFT cartel" aren't the only ones who want to use Gifts to spam enchants on their gear and as such, the value of the item goes up. That's how this works. More people want the item than there are items in circulation, thus increasing its value. You yourself are contributing to that very same system. By your logic, you're now part of the mysterious cartel.

If Gifts dropped a lot more commonly, the value would drop.

Oh, really? Thank you for the valuable information! ..why the hell did you write that to me? The point is that all this pays off ONLY for people from the TFT cartel. Do I need to write something else to make it clear to you? Why should I write the same thing to each of you?

How does it only pay off only from people in this made up group?

What are they doing that you haven't tried yet?

What's stopping you from doing the same thing?

If you bothered to spend more time farming currency instead of complaining about some figment of imagination you have misplaced envy towards, you could buy Gifts in bulk.

If you don't like TFT, just say it. Don't make up some boogeyman where there isn't one.

Why are you even after Gifts to the Goddess? To enchant your helmet? If you're that bothered, why not just buy a base with that enchantment and craft the rest of it yourself? You're gambling by using Gifts anyway, so you might as well shift to gambling with crafting. Your odds of success are likely to be higher thanks to Delve fossils and essences.

Or, alternatively, use a build that doesn't depend on the enchantment and not worry about it anymore.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

How does it only pay off only from people in this made up group?

What are they doing that you haven't tried yet?

What's stopping you from doing the same thing?

They're farming, that's what they're doing that he isn't. He's playing an arpg and doesn't want to farm.

I think what he's trying to say is you and I are among the privileged few who can afford to buy Gifts if we wanted to. And by his logic, that means we engage in p2w somehow too.

We're wasting our time since there is no reason to be had for him here. Let him wallow in his envy instead of using that time to farm and buy the Gifts he want. If it makes him feel better to think that's p2w so be it.

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TemjinGold wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

How does it only pay off only from people in this made up group?

What are they doing that you haven't tried yet?

What's stopping you from doing the same thing?

They're farming, that's what they're doing that he isn't. He's playing an arpg and doesn't want to farm.

I think what he's trying to say is you and I are among the privileged few who can afford to buy Gifts if we wanted to. And by his logic, that means we engage in p2w somehow too.

We're wasting our time since there is no reason to be had for him here. Let him wallow in his envy instead of using that time to farm and buy the Gifts he want. If it makes him feel better to think that's p2w so be it.

That's not what I meant at all. What kind of stupidity? I wrote that the farm lab pays only for the TFT cartel. Because no matter what the price is for these Gifts, they will always be in the black. They don't need to worry about buying bases, because their customers have already done it. They don't waste time and resources on it. They are free from this burdensome occupation. Whereas ordinary players have to do all this all the time, without having orders. Thus, this content is available only to the formed cartel.
For other players who are not related to the cartel, this content becomes unavailable at this price. Because most enchants are absolute garbage or will be sold for a very long time, just taking up space in the inventory. Whereas the cartel people don't have that problem. Their work is put on the conveyor and there is no need to worry about anything.

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LordExile3000 wrote:

That's not what I meant at all. What kind of stupidity? I wrote that the farm lab pays only for the TFT cartel. Because no matter what the price is for these Gifts, they will always be in the black. They don't need to worry about buying bases, because their customers have already done it. They don't waste time and resources on it. They are free from this burdensome occupation. Whereas ordinary players have to do all this all the time, without having orders. Thus, this content is available only to the formed cartel.
For other players who are not related to the cartel, this content becomes unavailable at this price. Because most enchants are absolute garbage or will be sold for a very long time, just taking up space in the inventory. Whereas the cartel people don't have that problem. Their work is put on the conveyor and there is no need to worry about anything.

How is any part of this Pay to Win, though? Nobody has to pay to use the TFT discord server...

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LordExile3000 wrote:

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TemjinGold wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

How does it only pay off only from people in this made up group?

What are they doing that you haven't tried yet?

What's stopping you from doing the same thing?

They're farming, that's what they're doing that he isn't. He's playing an arpg and doesn't want to farm.

I think what he's trying to say is you and I are among the privileged few who can afford to buy Gifts if we wanted to. And by his logic, that means we engage in p2w somehow too.

We're wasting our time since there is no reason to be had for him here. Let him wallow in his envy instead of using that time to farm and buy the Gifts he want. If it makes him feel better to think that's p2w so be it.

That's not what I meant at all. What kind of stupidity? I wrote that the farm lab pays only for the TFT cartel. Because no matter what the price is for these Gifts, they will always be in the black. They don't need to worry about buying bases, because their customers have already done it. They don't waste time and resources on it. They are free from this burdensome occupation. Whereas ordinary players have to do all this all the time, without having orders. Thus, this content is available only to the formed cartel.
For other players who are not related to the cartel, this content becomes unavailable at this price. Because most enchants are absolute garbage or will be sold for a very long time, just taking up space in the inventory. Whereas the cartel people don't have that problem. Their work is put on the conveyor and there is no need to worry about anything.

Then why not shift your expectations to something more realistic? Buy an enchanted base and craft with it. Fossils, essences, and harvest crafts are far more accessible and even farmable.