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LordExile3000 wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

How? I'm a nobody and could get Gift to the Goddess off TFT. You think people are just handing out Gifts to each other based on popularity?

These guys have access to a special service, thanks to their conditional social status in the TFT/ You can't ignore it. This is definitely a privileged system that puts players in unequal positions. Because of what they can afford this content, because for them it always pays off. But for ordinary players, this is very expensive and unreliable content.

Watch me. I'm ignoring it right now.

If you are too poor to trade for Gifts, your character is not nearly good enough to reliably complete them without dying. If you can't be bothered to farm them yourself and you can't farm other stuff well enough to afford these, then you don't get to play them.

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TemjinGold wrote:

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LordExile3000 wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

How? I'm a nobody and could get Gift to the Goddess off TFT. You think people are just handing out Gifts to each other based on popularity?

These guys have access to a special service, thanks to their conditional social status in the TFT/ You can't ignore it. This is definitely a privileged system that puts players in unequal positions. Because of what they can afford this content, because for them it always pays off. But for ordinary players, this is very expensive and unreliable content.

Watch me. I'm ignoring it right now.

If you are too poor to trade for Gifts, your character is not nearly good enough to reliably complete them without dying. If you can't be bothered to farm them yourself and you can't farm other stuff well enough to afford these, then you don't get to play them.

They are non-repayable, because, unlike the TFT Cartel, I do not charge an additional fee for enchanting. Or did you decide not to notice it?

Notice what? The fee they are charging is to go fish a very specific lab enchant out of the lab for you. For TONS of runs to find your enchant. If you aren't a dedicated lab farmer (think 600+ movespeed and completing the entire lab in under 3 mins with the load screens being the bulk of that), no one will want to pay you to fish an enchant because, depending on the enchant, it quite literally will take you months if you find it at all.

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TemjinGold wrote:

Notice what? The fee they are charging is to go fish a very specific lab enchant out of the lab for you. For TONS of runs to find your enchant. If you aren't a dedicated lab farmer (think 600+ movespeed and completing the entire lab in under 3 mins with the load screens being the bulk of that), no one will want to pay you to fish an enchant because, depending on the enchant, it quite literally will take you months if you find it at all.

Why are you telling me this? Do you think you can fool me? They charge for any enchant, which means it is profitable in any case. Even if it costs 40c, they will charge you 4 devines and it will be a great bonus for them. They take a lot of orders and all their work pays off quickly and easily thanks to this. Do you think I don't know what's going on?
Unlike me, they don't need to worry about buying bases, they don't need to spend their currency on it. They are in huge advantage and are a cartel, because not everyone has access to this service.

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LordExile3000 wrote:

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Xzorn wrote:

Go farm.

Is this a joke? Or trolling? Should I farm gifts instead of playing labs? R u ok?

They drop from labs. They also drop from the trials when you allocate the Lab wheel on the Atlas. It's a 5-6% drop chance from trials. Surprisingly the spread between the three are fairly even. I'm not sure what the drop chance in labs is but the stat jewels were worth more anyways.

If you're willing 2 minutes for trials and 10 mins for lab spams it's good profit.

You don't really need Gifts anyways. You just need a good lab layout to spam.

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Xzorn wrote:

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LordExile3000 wrote:

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Xzorn wrote:

Go farm.

Is this a joke? Or trolling? Should I farm gifts instead of playing labs? R u ok?

They drop from labs. They also drop from the trials when you allocate the Lab wheel on the Atlas. It's a 5-6% drop chance from trials. Surprisingly the spread between the three are fairly even. I'm not sure what the drop chance in labs is but the stat jewels were worth more anyways.

If you're willing 2 minutes for trials and 10 mins for lab spams it's good profit.

You don't really need Gifts anyways. You just need a good lab layout to spam.

Why don't you do it yourself, if everything is as good as you describe?

Err.. the only person NOT doing this themselves seems to be you.

I run labs for all the enchants I need in a league. I generally don't even run gifts, just the normal tokens. If it's a helm enchant that's hard to get, I just buy the base with the enchant already on from the trade site and craft it myself. I've never once used TFT for anything and have no problems making all the currency I need for my items.

Yes TFT can charge a lot for certain enchants to be put on people's items. And they can make it work because they enchant in mass volume. Even if Gifts were free, you as a solo player will never be able to compete with them simply because as I said, they can find the enchant MUCH faster than you can ever hope to. That and no one is going to entrust their valuable item to you, a nobody, to run labs for them.

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TemjinGold wrote:

Err.. the only person NOT doing this themselves seems to be you.

I run labs for all the enchants I need in a league. I generally don't even run gifts, just the normal tokens. If it's a helm enchant that's hard to get, I just buy the base with the enchant already on from the trade site and craft it myself. I've never once used TFT for anything and have no problems making all the currency I need for my items.

Exactly this. I've never used it either and I keep good bases on hand if I get a good enchant which only adds to the profit. Like I mentioned I sold all my Gifts. People are paying way too much.

Is spamming labs all day fun? No but most things have become a spam in this game now.
Pretty much why I haven't played since the 8th day of launch this league.

Back to back leagues I can only interact with every 30 maps. Get out with that crap GGG.

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Xzorn wrote:

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TemjinGold wrote:

Err.. the only person NOT doing this themselves seems to be you.

I run labs for all the enchants I need in a league. I generally don't even run gifts, just the normal tokens. If it's a helm enchant that's hard to get, I just buy the base with the enchant already on from the trade site and craft it myself. I've never once used TFT for anything and have no problems making all the currency I need for my items.

Exactly this. I've never used it either and I keep good bases on hand if I get a good enchant which only adds to the profit. Like I mentioned I sold all my Gifts. People are paying way too much.

Is spamming labs all day fun? No but most things have become a spam in this game now.
Pretty much why I haven't played since the 8th day of launch this league.

Back to back leagues I can only interact with every 30 maps. Get out with that crap GGG.

I have also been engaged in lab farming for a long time. There are no secrets for me here. But specifically TFT cartel now has absolute privileges and GGG turns a blind eye to it.
All I would like is for harvest craft to come back. Or the chance of these items falling out was higher in the labs. I haven't seen a single Gift in the entire league. This is an incredibly small chance. but at the same time, I received several divs from the end cases.

lols learn what p2w is pls