Are you sure about Challenge: Definitive Deviation?

The worst of the 40 challenges by far. Completion is gated by extremely heavy RNG - and forces an extremely unfun and unrewarding play style. Currently at 14/17 after doing sanctums non-stop for 2 days straight.

Usually these challenges do have one or two tough ones but this one takes the cake for most monotonous and unrewarding challenge in the past 2 or 3 years.

I've opened more maps grabbing sanctum rooms than I've opened total in some entire leagues and it's seriously souring my league experience.


I'm at 16/17 right now and it's painful. I highly recommend people to skip this challenge if you haven't started it or if you're going for 38/40.

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Vyrmilion wrote:

Usually these challenges do have one or two tough ones but this one takes the cake for most monotonous and unrewarding challenge in the past 2 or 3 years.

I've opened more maps grabbing sanctum rooms than I've opened total in some entire leagues and it's seriously souring my league experience.


I'm at 16/17 right now and it's painful. I highly recommend people to skip this challenge if you haven't started it or if you're going for 38/40.

i think it would be easier if they had a challenge saying drop a mirror of kalandra

That one challenge is what should be the easiest as it says affiction but it's the hardest because it's bigger affiction/bigger boons that you only get from mechant and pact... And you need a lot not just 4.

I won't reach 38 because of this UberRNG stupid challenge...

I've been running sanctum on city of sarn with hallow palm (seven league step + raider onslaught + fleetfoot for 96% ms) since its the smallest area in the game. This challenge sucks so bad literally stuck on this for days

Many challenges this league revolved around doing stuff wrong and i dont like that kind of challenge. Thats just my opinion though. Even most basic stuff like kill exarch while being on top of rune can be bricked few times if u play melee build. Please less challenges where u intentionally brick your game and run. Instead of hit rune make challenge DONT hit rune or get debuff. What a weird way of rewarding ppl. Run around temple avoid doing fun rooms and smart choices instead spec fully into reveal sanctum so u can find shrines to brick your own run so u can get challenge. Srsly ggg think about it. Is there ANY good reason to have "brick" your game challenges.

Ok im officially done with this league. I will try to be as polite i possible. SO this "challenge" - Definitive Deviation was designed by complete sadist. After boss rushing around 700-800 Mesa maps, and doing sanctum mechanic (targeting only pacts over all other even if there was a afflictions that make your run nearly brick, like Golden Smoke - tip ONLY form there you can get Major Afflictions). I found around 5-6 pacts that contained Major Afflictions, where 3 times in the row I got same one. Till now I'm 15/17 i found ALL Major Boons, expect Bronze Coin and 3 Major Afflictions. I don't even know HOW this pass any amount of "EXTERNAL" testing that GGG is making before league starts. I don't want to flame anyone, but form point of view of someone who sink like a week doing this uber rng "challenge", this is incompetence. Major Afflictions can ONLY be gained from pacts, Boons from pacts and merchant, and the affliction part is ULTRA RARE. My question is WHY?, when you taking one you essentially wishing to brick your entire run and forfeit all your end of sanctum rewards (you need to just kill floor boss to progress challenge and thank God), when doing even a floor with it (depend what you got) is challenging.

As this challenge is now, I wish not to spend on it any more time I already did. Buff massively chance to get major afflictions form pacts or lower progression from 17 to ~14 (i rather opting for the 1st option, because it is still challenge).

P.s. I'm LvL 100 Jugg (got lvl 100 at this point like week or week and half ago), done 38/40 challenges (I don't done Grinding Grand Goals, because 39/40 is pointless - only on 40 you will get last part of totem), and YES i know you need 3 minor afflictions to transform them into major one. I'm always ending my sanctum runs having like ~12 of them or even more on me. I'm hoping someone from GGG will read this and do something, but do not holding my breath on it. And also sorry for my bad English, it is not my native language.

GGG, keep on making unfun challenges like this and I am gonna keep on not buying supporter packs. Ridiculous!

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jbitz wrote:

I've been running sanctum on city of sarn with hallow palm (seven league step + raider onslaught + fleetfoot for 96% ms) since its the smallest area in the game. This challenge sucks so bad literally stuck on this for days

I'm almost at that point. I spent 10 hours speed chaining maps over the past few days and went from 13/17 to...13/17 lmao. I just got lucky and got 2 at once a couple of rooms from the end. Technically I have 2 boons left on the list so Divinia can bail me out. I have +4 merchant choices from my relics so sooner or later RNG will have to give it to me. Maybe.

Enter map, find league mechanic, rush boss, repeat isn't bad currency so I don't mind it too much but it's starting to get old. I estimate I've spent 20 hours or more of purposeful grinding (chasing accursed pacts and merchants) in the sanctum to get to 15/17. That's a little too extreme for a non-EGG challenge. 15 was probably a better number for the challenge.

Edit: Woo hoo finally got it done. Now I'm so burned out of sanctums that I don't think I'll be stepping foot in them again once I finish the one I'm on.

This is the first ever league for me to get over 36 challenges. I am now 39\40 and this is the only one left to do.

So far been farming City of Sarn for a day and gotten 1 major boon I didnt have. Some runs I had 4.. FOUR MAJOR BOONS ALL THE SAME I ALREADY HAD.

This reminds me of Ultimatum league boss challenge where the boss was as rare as a mirror and you had to kill the boss conditionally, id rather commit sudoku.

This one seems possible, thanks GGG for making me play City of Sarn for the next 2 months straight. What an amazing challenge, good work team working on this, you really did a good job testing this and need a raise.

edit: I did it! Took a few days but its done. Once I realized I dont have to get the merchant because I had all but 1 positive boon already I then focused on the pacts and completed it pretty "fast".