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SunL4D2 wrote:
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Feanturo wrote:
From what i get they will be as rare as a mirror drop. So not to expect but nice when it happens.
Making loot goblins in general way more rare might be the solution I suppose. I hope they adress overall scarcity of the loot many people have problem with (not me personally since I didn't stacked monsters in maps in 3.19 - just farmed Expedition, Harvest and Altars mostly).
To tell the truth I have no desire to play Magic Find POE. I don't find it fun. Playing the game to become stronger and stronger while taking on harder and harder challenges with your more powerful character is what's fun.
If I wanted to play a handicaped build to have fun I would have just played Diablo II. I found magic find to be one of the least fun things about Diablo II it takes all the fun out of the build when you have to use MF gear. The build is slower, it's less powerful... It's just.. less... and that's not my idea of fun.
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Posted byValkaneer#5171on Dec 1, 2022, 7:36:44 PM
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Naw, I think it's the opposite. From what I've read, most people are relieved that they don't need a MF culler and no, many players still won't focus on MF at all. This is a buff.
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Posted bymoedexter#5239on Dec 1, 2022, 7:45:58 PM
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There was never a problem with loot goblins to begin with, and while all of the Twitch hermits were in their Reddit caves complaining and rubbing each others' backs, those of us who were left quite enjoyed filling the holes they left in the market for us.
The problem is that most people complaining don't seem to understand how their own brain works, and instead of looking for a way to use this loot feature to their advantage(some of us did exactly that), they took that time and instead complained about it all league because they think it's somehow comparable to casino games. "But mah dopamine!"
I've lost count of how many people I've seen say "I quit the league on day 2" then go on to talk about the state of loot as if they had any idea what it was like. [Removed by Support]
CW has had his share of faux pas, and some of the memes were well-deserved. But good lord, I've never felt so alienated from a community just by reading posts.
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Posted bykrackhed999#6086on Dec 1, 2022, 9:41:35 PM
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SunL4D2 wrote:
Hello, fellow Catarina enjoyer. Judging by what they said they are not necessarily adressing it, because they focus on hiding them part. It's better to raise awareness earlier.
Yes, this is my issue. I thought the Q&A did a poor job of talking about the issue. Chris Wilson raised some possible valid points, but failed to expand on them. He said communication failed and them failed to communicate how the changes were actually good.
We need to know what he thinks we were upset about, and he didn't talk about that. Sometimes ZiggyD is just not the person we needed to hear asking the question on a particular subject, and here I wanted to hear Grimro asking the questions. Grimro did a lot of calculating drop rates and trying to find a way to get juicing maps to be worth it.
It was a month into the league before Grimro came up with anything close to being good. When juicing maps was a currency loss that is what broke the game and what caused people to quit in droves. I didn't have 4+ hours a day to farm and I don't have the currency needed to sustain hours of farming before I get that one big drop that makes it all worth it.
When Grimro said it was a net loss to juice maps, and all of the streamers that love the game were saying the same thing it was a real problem.
The fanboys like to ignore when Mathil and even Subtractum (the faces of positivity) were being negative about 3.19, what gets me is how many streamers act like the fist month of 3.19 didn't happen. It was a month into the league before GGG got things somewhat functionable, about 3 weeks to late too save the league, and no one wants to play a dead league.
To be honest I am not sure if juicing maps conventionally was still not worth it when GGG improved base droprates and when market adjusted and prices of Scarabs went down. Maybe it was? I didn't farmed "monsters" myself - mostly did Expedition, Harvest and Altars.
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Valkaneer wrote:
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SunL4D2 wrote:
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Feanturo wrote:
From what i get they will be as rare as a mirror drop. So not to expect but nice when it happens.
Making loot goblins in general way more rare might be the solution I suppose. I hope they adress overall scarcity of the loot many people have problem with (not me personally since I didn't stacked monsters in maps in 3.19 - just farmed Expedition, Harvest and Altars mostly).
To tell the truth I have no desire to play Magic Find POE. I don't find it fun. Playing the game to become stronger and stronger while taking on harder and harder challenges with your more powerful character is what's fun.
If I wanted to play a handicaped build to have fun I would have just played Diablo II. I found magic find to be one of the least fun things about Diablo II it takes all the fun out of the build when you have to use MF gear. The build is slower, it's less powerful... It's just.. less... and that's not my idea of fun.
Same.
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krackhed999 wrote:
There was never a problem with loot goblins to begin with, and while all of the Twitch hermits were in their Reddit caves complaining and rubbing each others' backs, those of us who were left quite enjoyed filling the holes they left in the market for us.
The problem is that most people complaining don't seem to understand how their own brain works, and instead of looking for a way to use this loot feature to their advantage(some of us did exactly that), they took that time and instead complained about it all league because they think it's somehow comparable to casino games. "But mah dopamine!"
I've lost count of how many people I've seen say "I quit the league on day 2" then go on to talk about the state of loot as if they had any idea what it was like. [Removed by Support]
CW has had his share of faux pas, and some of the memes were well-deserved. But good lord, I've never felt so alienated from a community just by reading posts.
You blame people for quitting on day 2, because you are conditioned to not even expect League to launch in good state on release. It's truly sad.
Also loot goblins were 100% issue.
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moedexter wrote:
Naw, I think it's the opposite. From what I've read, most people are relieved that they don't need a MF culler and no, many players still won't focus on MF at all. This is a buff.
As I explain, they are mistaken.
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Posted bySunL4D2#6224on Dec 2, 2022, 4:58:40 PM
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ive never worn mf gear and i do just fine making a couple hundred exalts every league
but sure
keep freaking out
its fun to watch =D
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Posted byRitualMurder#3177on Dec 2, 2022, 6:35:31 PM
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RitualMurder wrote:
ive never worn mf gear and i do just fine making a couple hundred exalts every league
but sure
keep freaking out
its fun to watch =D
Wrong thread? Or you misunderstood something?
Also Exalts got swapped with Divines. Nobody says "I make Exalts" anymore, mr 8 challenges.
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Posted bySunL4D2#6224on Dec 2, 2022, 9:49:39 PM
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To OP: I'm not too bothered if players who choose to MF get rewarded for it more over me. At least with this change, I'm not feeling like an idiot for not going out of my way to a 3rd party app to look for a MF culler.
Greetings.
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Posted byklorin2#7312on Dec 2, 2022, 10:20:26 PM
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moedexter wrote:
Naw, I think it's the opposite. From what I've read, most people are relieved that they don't need a MF culler and no, many players still won't focus on MF at all. This is a buff.
loot goblins are here to stay, only now you dont know if its solaris touched or whatever else is there, hence you cannot even use culling service, hence you`re pushed into making a magic find char.
probably 90% of softcore streamers are gonna play one sort or another magic find char. altough im gonna miss next league i had some 400rarity char from kalandra that i intend to play only him in std until devs come to their senses and remove rarity and quantity on gear.
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Posted byferal_nature#7076on Dec 3, 2022, 2:39:25 AM
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Till well organized empys and alike would notice, that only difference is to southbound one who would do the pulling. I d bet (no data sorry) on average it d print even greater rewards.For normal causal its going to be nightmare lottery, for those who farm for pony 0,2/1000 runs pinata it will be great. Prove me wrong.
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Posted byfobosollo#6026on Dec 3, 2022, 1:38:33 PM
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Update after 2 weeks of Sanctum. Seems like GGG listened and did with loot goblins exactly what they should have - remove extra axis of scaling (rarity) out of the equasion. Loot goblins now are way less common and drop way less Divines.
Ladies and gentleman, you can rest easy. Issue of loot goblins seems to be solved.
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Posted bySunL4D2#6224on Dec 22, 2022, 9:14:51 PM
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