Should Magic Find be removed from the game (Poll)

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Sarganis87 wrote:

MF gear is conceptually the same as it was in Diablo 2. And that's 20 years. Think about that for a minute.

That's not a valid argument against MF. If it stuck around for 20+ years it must be good. Survival of the fittest.

That said, I agree that MF should be removed.

I vote Nay for MF!

Game loot should be blanket buffed and MF should have harsher diminishing costs... and Archnemesis shouldn't be the main source of loot in the game (or, rather, no one should feel bad for not MF culling them). These 3 changes should do the trick.

I'm fine with MF overall, the balance is all over the place though.

@Edit: THAT SAID, I also would be fine if MF was removed from the game if it ensured better loot balance. Not going to happen though.

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Mikrotherion wrote:

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Sarganis87 wrote:

MF gear is conceptually the same as it was in Diablo 2. And that's 20 years. Think about that for a minute.

That's not a valid argument against MF. If it stuck around for 20+ years it must be good. Survival of the fittest.

That said, I agree that MF should be removed.

It may be survival of the fittest. But it also may be a GGG's unwillingness to leave old things behind that turned into a false impression that it survived because it is good. And for me, its track record proves the latter.

MF had its merit waaay back in the day when there were basically no tools to change risk/reward. But now there are plenty of tools within a coherent system (Map Device). MF on gear is now an outlier.

GGG remove mf AND party bonus!
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3300869

GGG has figured out how to solve problems, just delete posts complaining about them! Brilliant!

Anyway, while I think MF is problematic I think it's an issue to overlook the problems loot goblins create in and of themselves. They need to go, and if they don't go the concern is they, like AN in general will be problematic from here on out.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

GGG remove mf AND party bonus!
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3300869

Remove removing things!

On a serious note TreeOfDead, Would you be ok with any other alternatives besides removing it?

find the gobling

call the culler

chris the vision

No it makes for interesting gear compromises and forces player to use brain like many systems this game has. It also rewards clever play like using cullers and teamwork. Last thing this game needs to remove MF and other complex choices.

Game could stand to remove league bloat and tedium whereby we skip 80% of content unless you play SSF then you must develope your nerfed temples, beasts, Jun, heist, mine etc for one thing and that sucks too.

The only reason why MF wasnt top tier for a long time was Nem3/4 in hyper juiced maps, sim farming, expedition target runs and heists.
Basicaly MF was only ok because it didnt work in every aspect of the game and your build couldnt handle some very lucrative content with MF gear.

Every time MF was the best way to farm the game turned into something I couldnt stand playing. The whole concept of gimping my build to get more currency is so weird. Why should I ever make a stronger build if I can just chain run T5 maps in 10 seconds and make more profit than with a powerful character?

The whole culling problem just add another layer to it. You do not even need to gimp your build you are now forced to always have a second build or call for a untrustworthy service to actually effectivly farm.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

No it makes for interesting gear compromises and forces player to use brain like many systems this game has. It also rewards clever play like using cullers and teamwork. Last thing this game needs to remove MF and other complex choices.

Game could stand to remove league bloat and tedium whereby we skip 80% of content unless you play SSF then you must develope your temples, beasts, Jun, heist, mine etc for one thing and that sucks too.

You need a brain for MF? Now I heard it all. Farming the same map 8 or more hours a day with MF gear is the most degenerate gameplay PoE has to offer.