D4 Monetization leak = GGG can safely push POE 2 to 2026 without any worry at all

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RuneLuthien wrote:
We all like GGG's business & dev teams more than Blizzard. Tho if POE 2 doesn't have open world npc caravan wagon npc 100 person towns that you capture; capture the flag and open zoned story immersion zones with some pvp elements & world bosses like D4 is going to have. Well d4 it is.


Afaik there is no indication that PoE2 will have any of these features, you'll get a new campaign and updated gameplay elements/graphics. Of course it could evolve to incorporate some of these features, if D4 is successful in player reception and reviews the probability increases.

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AmpegV4 wrote:
POE is not another MMO thankfully.

Your misinterpreting the title, the thread title and OP is eluding to D4 not shaping up as a serious competitor for POE 2. Kinda agree.

Because of D4s mmo elements or monetization plan?

None of it will impact D4s ability to compete with PoE2, unless of course some really sinister monetization plan is revealed later on that would truly make the playerbase despise it. Gamers have already proven they are willing to pour money on games they like to play.

The ''leak'' is what you would expect, nothing shocking, Blizzard has been glancing at POE and other games when it comes to MTXs for a long time. Did anyone seriously think this would be D2/D3 with all these features? They will milk it for a long time and that's a good thing since this means it will be supported with new content.

Contrary to your opinion i think D4 is shaping up to be a serious competitor not only to POE but to many games out there in the rpg/arpg/mmorpg genres, from a feature list it looks really impressive. As always time will tell.
Last edited by wierdzodi#7807 on Aug 17, 2022, 2:24:31 AM
Be sure on your information before you post OP.

I have read many different sources , which all said the same thing.
D4 won't have pay to win system, but the same mtx as POE.

The biggest logic behind this is the game itself is with a price.
Activision might be greedy to hell, but not stupid.
it dos not matter if D4 be trash or p2w like hell. blizzard fans still play and praise it. just look at Diablo immoral its a trash money grab game and still doing crazy good. so no mater how bad D4 be it still will make stupid amount of money
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Varana wrote:
OP, I think you wat to watch that video more carefully.

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ivqancorp wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwXjvgt5EMM

Recent Blizzard's D4 survey leak shows:

Base game: $59.99 - The normal Blizzard game cost
Battlepass: $14.99 - monthly pass
Cash shop currency: $20.00 - Platinum boxes


And according to the video, it stresses all of these are cosmetic-only with no effect on gameplay.
Are you OK with cosmetic MTXs in a game, or would you never play such an abhorrent monetisation model?
Quote, "the survey does not show any pay-to-win, or pay-for-convenience features, as of yet - no character slots, or inventory space".
PoE not mocking here.

The one possible exception is the Mount, which allows faster movement. It said this unlocks after the campaign: but I think I heard that these are a gneeral feature, or were going to be, not paid-for - also paying for these would contradict the quotes above. It's the cosmetics for mounts which must be purchased.

And early access is available, paid-for. That's not something unique either.

Early access is actually paytowin. 2 or 7 days headstart is huge in economy game, just imagine how far behind you would be in PoE if you would start 1week later? Imagine wanting to participate in some league opening race, but you have to wait 1week to actually start
They earned over $ 100 million on Immortal.
What did you expect?
Keep on paying you fools ...
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anti4z500 wrote:
it dos not matter if D4 be trash or p2w like hell. blizzard fans still play and praise it. just look at Diablo immoral its a trash money grab game and still doing crazy good. so no mater how bad D4 be it still will make stupid amount of money

By your own logic, then ask yourself what would happen if D4 is an enjoyable game to play(decent quality product), monopolization which has not been seen since WoW glory days?

I doubt console/computer players will be that mindless(already a lot of turmoil over the ''mtx' leak among Blizz fans)

D4 P2W ''like hell'' and it will suffer tremendously . There is a significant difference between D4 and Diablo : immortal and hence why they are not really comparable, i.e D4 is not a phone game designed for the phone market(P2W is the phone market defined).

Last edited by wierdzodi#7807 on Aug 17, 2022, 3:17:03 AM
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Ivanovv83 wrote:
Be sure on your information before you post OP.

I have read many different sources , which all said the same thing.
D4 won't have pay to win system, but the same mtx as POE.



Yeah same as Diablo Immortal didnt have any.
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wierdzodi wrote:
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anti4z500 wrote:
it dos not matter if D4 be trash or p2w like hell. blizzard fans still play and praise it. just look at Diablo immoral its a trash money grab game and still doing crazy good. so no mater how bad D4 be it still will make stupid amount of money

By your own logic, then ask yourself what would happen if D4 is an enjoyable game to play(decent quality product), monopolization which has not been seen since WoW glory days?

I doubt console/computer players will be that mindless(already a lot of turmoil over the ''mtx' leak among Blizz fans)

D4 P2W ''like hell'' and it will suffer tremendously . There is a significant difference between D4 and Diablo : immortal and hence why they are not really comparable, i.e D4 is not a phone game designed for the phone market(P2W is the phone market defined).



if D4 its rly good game like in blizzard glory days d2/wow thats amazing and its good for all ppl. but do you rly believe in blizzard to make a good game ? when did they made great game ? like no matter how many times blizzard spits in your face you still believe them :D
blizzard is just a name now. They are not the same company that made their brand.

free to play models in full price games is a garbage strategy and the game itself probably won't be that interesting. They don't hire developers who are capable of making great games anymore. They spend that money on marketing and psychiatric research (how to convince people to spend more money).

Garbage company that shames the people who founded blizzard.
They're going to stuff it with every possible monetisation method and then stop supporting it after 18 months.

Next grift.

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