D4 Monetization leak = GGG can safely push POE 2 to 2026 without any worry at all

It seems they would be selling cosmetics only? If no pay to win people will gobble up all copies of d4 as soon as they can.

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Varana wrote:

OP, I think you wat to watch that video more carefully.

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ivqancorp wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwXjvgt5EMM

Recent Blizzard's D4 survey leak shows:

Base game: $59.99 - The normal Blizzard game cost
Battlepass: $14.99 - monthly pass
Cash shop currency: $20.00 - Platinum boxes

And according to the video, it stresses all of these are cosmetic-only with no effect on gameplay.
Are you OK with cosmetic MTXs in a game, or would you never play such an abhorrent monetisation model?
Quote, "the survey does not show any pay-to-win, or pay-for-convenience features, as of yet - no character slots, or inventory space".
PoE not mocking here.

The one possible exception is the Mount, which allows faster movement. It said this unlocks after the campaign: but I think I heard that these are a gneeral feature, or were going to be, not paid-for - also paying for these would contradict the quotes above. It's the cosmetics for mounts which must be purchased.

And early access is available, paid-for. That's not something unique either.

Didn't they say the same thing about another game. Oh man the name is right on the tip of my tongue. D...d....d....oh yeah DIABLO IMMORTAL!

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Draegnarrr wrote:

D4 is gonna be what D4 was always gonna be, it'll sell a shitload, won't be supported and will be a mirror of D3 within 6 months. If we are lucky it'll be a good game for those first few months, if were unlucky it won't be neither of which will impact its sales.

That's just wishful thinking.

Blizzard supported WoW for a decade in this way, expansions with enhanced versions extra cosmetic outfits etc, mounts/ pets or other stuff.

To believe they wouldn't come with a similar plan for D4 is naive, it's AAA development and the largest Acti/Blizz release in over a decade. Likewise you can be assured they're going to support and monetize it for a long time if the game is successful at launch.

From their business point of view it's not the succesor to Diablo 3, it's the succesor to WoW carrying the Diablo name.

D3 was the incomplete alpha test that they abandoned since at the time other games were still going strong and there was no need for it, D4 is going to be the finalized version updated with modern graphics and features(including a monetization model to milk the game) in times when the company need the next big hit due to the decline and aging of WoW.

As for GGG not having to worry, that entirely depends how good D4 is in comparison to POE, it's whishful thinking again believing greed would ruin their chances. If D4 is at the time of release a better(more fun from the player point of view) game than POE, then it's going to be a serious threat and the need for PoE2 greater than ever.

As long as it's going to be cosmetic only / doesn't effect actual gameplay idc how much and how expensive the mtx are going to be in Diablo IV

At least like in every leaked image it says no game play advantage included so maybe theres some hope, obviously they can still go ptw fuckery but im going to have open mind and just wait and see.

Also i think it's more ethical to have optional premium battlepass with cosmetic rewards you need to renew each month than have gameplay content like private leagues you have to pay with real money each month.

Guess GGG support doesn't know the meaning of "needlessly" or they didn't play any Bli$$ard games lately, cuz they deleted my post. Well who cares, as long as the message is out there and people know how blizzard is , deleting a post is just protocol and does nothing

To be expected, this game could be terrible (likely will be) and will still break record sales out of brand name alone.

The one area i thought Blizzard would smash out the park is the graphics. So far what we saw in the POE 2 reveal looks better than D4.

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wierdzodi wrote:

Blizzard supported WoW for a decade in this way, expansions with enhanced versions extra cosmetic outfits etc, mounts/ pets or other stuff.

Firstly it isn't wishful thinking. Even if I don't play D4 I still would love them to support it properly for the people who actually do play it, I don't really wish failure on anyone.

however, ignoring WoW, Blizzard is the least productive big developer I have no idea why you think the fact they support WoW (which has a sub) means they will support Diablo.

They didn't support D3 despite the record breaking sales lmao I really wouldn't take it as a sure thing that it will get good support.

in response to some other, I don't think it will be P2W either unless its a cash in, it depends on their future business model if they want to ride it then bin it then p2w is the way, if they want to have access to it in the future then they need to avoid it. This is because P2W has a very negative stigma in any non mobile space - it makes loads of dollar dollar but at the expense of future stuff and considering Blizzard has been riding brand value for over a decade they might be cautious about taking a Stanley Steamer on it.

You guys need to realize that Blizzard dont give a flying fuck about their fanbase, players, customers. They want money. The more the better. Its not 2004 anymore where games were made mostly for people to have fun and making some money was on the side.

There is ZERO chance this game wont be monetized into oblivion. It will have all the P2W elements they can think about.

D4's target main market is console players. It's not PC players.

It will be a massive success for them regardless anyway. Console players have been used to paying premium plus extras on top for more than a decade at this point.

In terms of POE2 vs D4? Yeah, people will be baited in by Blizz shills like Quin and Asmon. Quin is even talking about if D4 releases around Exilecon he will be playing D4 instead.

Sorry, I'm not a person who thinks D4 will be a total failure for Blizzard. As I've found there are many many Blizzard shills out there, especially after the defence streamers and players put up for DI.

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mrrick1781 wrote:

Sorry, I'm not a person who thinks D4 will be a total failure for Blizzard. As I've found there are many many Blizzard shills out there, especially after the defence streamers and players put up for DI.

Oh no, only Blizzard haters would think D4 gonna be failure. Diablo Immortal is great example. Its pretty much [Removed by Support] game with as much P2W elements as its humanly possible to fit into one game and it still was huge sucess for Blizzard.
But whoever thinks Diablo 4 will be "Diablo 2 sucessor and wont be P2W" is full of copium.