I can't believe this game still runs like garbage after all this time. (Get the new engine already)

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lagwin1980 wrote:
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LibidinousPsyche wrote:
I can't believe this game still runs like garbage after all this time. (Get the new engine already)


Funny how easy it is to spot someone who has literally no clue how the game or coding works.

A new engine won't fix anything, it is almost certainly going to make things worse, literally no game will throw around as much as PoE dose because the other engines can't handle it so much so that they don't even attempt it for the most part, all of their "optimization" is to dumb down mechanics if not outright remove them.

So sure lets port it to a new engine, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars for a worse experience which will cause them to loose supporters.


Actually more funny is understanding that even Chris admitted it was a very amateur job with their engine building and net coding at the onset. They have to deal with the consequences of those early days, and have been doing so for years. It sucks but it's a self-inflicted wound. They didnt have the cash, so they did it themselves. Understandable but unfortunate given the situation today.

Generally speaking the OP isnt wrong. The engine isnt very good, and is limiting them in numerous ways. Has it been incrementally improved over the last 10 years? Yes. Will it hold them back in the face of next gen competition, and what they can do with PoE & PoE2 moving forward? Absolutely. It wont age well over the next 5 years imo.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Jul 7, 2022, 10:33:59 AM
why do i have to keep bloom at 25% minimum when the game performs like this lol.

BuT iTs NoT tAkInG mUcH jUiCe!

yeah right, it has to take some and i cant spare any right now ;)


*i hope they figure out how to get extra smooth gameplay for poe2. you know it's going to be d4's strong suit.. let's be competitive.

tbf it performs quite well in towns and without much density. it only gets really ugly in big density - gotta work on that somehow.
Last edited by teksuoPOE#2987 on Jul 7, 2022, 11:55:33 AM
You're doing something very wrong if a 3080 isn't keeping up, such as;

Mediocre cpu.

Still using an HDD, or a cheap or nearly full SSD.

Playing on a 4k monitor.

Are you up to date on windows drivers, gpu drivers, bios and firmware?

Are you thermal throttling?



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Bleu42 wrote:
You're doing something very wrong if a 3080 isn't keeping up, such as;

Mediocre cpu.

Still using an HDD, or a cheap or nearly full SSD.

Playing on a 4k monitor.

Are you up to date on windows drivers, gpu drivers, bios and firmware?

Are you thermal throttling?





MAN Poe only on 8 k monitor it is 2022 8 k is must)
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DarthSki44 wrote:

Actually more funny is understanding that even Chris admitted it was a very amateur job with their engine building and net coding at the onset. They have to deal with the consequences of those early days, and have been doing so for years. It sucks but it's a self-inflicted wound. They didnt have the cash, so they did it themselves. Understandable but unfortunate given the situation today.

Generally speaking the OP isnt wrong. The engine isnt very good, and is limiting them in numerous ways. Has it been incrementally improved over the last 10 years? Yes. Will it hold them back in the face of next gen competition, and what they can do with PoE & PoE2 moving forward? Absolutely. It wont age well over the next 5 years imo.


Jonathan, the main dude programing this game said that the engine is modern and fast and is still being improved. They said there are "some things" to be repaired not that its dogshit like you try to imply.

No engine currently can handle PoE and thats a fact. Its being changed and improved every league. So yes, he is 100% wrong. Engine is the best you can currently get and thats a fact.
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kuciol wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:

Actually more funny is understanding that even Chris admitted it was a very amateur job with their engine building and net coding at the onset. They have to deal with the consequences of those early days, and have been doing so for years. It sucks but it's a self-inflicted wound. They didnt have the cash, so they did it themselves. Understandable but unfortunate given the situation today.

Generally speaking the OP isnt wrong. The engine isnt very good, and is limiting them in numerous ways. Has it been incrementally improved over the last 10 years? Yes. Will it hold them back in the face of next gen competition, and what they can do with PoE & PoE2 moving forward? Absolutely. It wont age well over the next 5 years imo.


Jonathan, the main dude programing this game said that the engine is modern and fast and is still being improved. They said there are "some things" to be repaired not that its dogshit like you try to imply.

No engine currently can handle PoE and thats a fact. Its being changed and improved every league. So yes, he is 100% wrong. Engine is the best you can currently get and thats a fact.


Lol
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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LibidinousPsyche wrote:
when I see post like a 2080 and up is over kill for this game I laugh so hard, while maybe sitting in your HO you may reach decent frames, but when you have 100 mob spawn this game is total trash


well, a porsche can theoretically drive very fast but it heavily depends on the road.
if you claim that a gpu is too weak, you have to specify the load (pixels/second) if has to produce - which would be the monitor you run.
game is fine. sure everyone including me wants improvements on it.

but it's still the best game of it's genre so shush...
imagine what it will take to make a totally new engine with all the shit that's going on in path of exile? probably does more harm than it does good to it.

hell maybe "poe 2" will fix it? yes "" cause it's still the same game and probably.... still the same engine.

all we can do is hope. just saying my opinion is i rather want new leagues/upgrades/bloat than to get a better engine tbh. i can deal with the engine like if u can't dodge things in poe with the frame drops ur just a bad player. but hey that's my opinion. don't cry about that part.
3.26 when?
Don't abandon us. don't turn your backs on the ones loving poe.
It's so cute when people without the faintest idea about programming, engines or development, tries to critique the engine. Especially when people just reply "lol". Heh, the lack of words alone just show that they have no fucking clue.

PoE absolutely has its problems, no one can deny that. But there's probably 0.0000001% of people in here with the knowledge to pinpoint why. They have no idea how this engine is built, how it runs compared to other engines and how much better a "commercial" engine would do.

I'll take criticism serious, if someone can explain why and how this engine is crap, and why and how another engine would do better.


Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Jul 7, 2022, 6:41:24 PM
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Phrazz wrote:
It's so cute when people without the faintest idea about programming, engines or development, tries to critique the engine. Especially when people just reply "lol". Heh, the lack of words alone just show that they have no fucking clue.

PoE absolutely has its problems, no one can deny that. But there's probably 0.0000001% of people in here with the knowledge to pinpoint why. They have no idea how this engine is built, how it runs compared to other engines and how much better a "commercial" engine would do.

I'll take criticism serious, if someone can explain why and how this engine is crap, and why and how another engine would do better.




I'm not even going to respond in detail to anyone that says PoE cannot be run better by any of today's modern engines, or that it's best that you can currently get, and that's a "fact".

This notion that an engine built by a couple of GGG founders literally in a garage well over a decade ago, that has gotten in-house upgrades, is matching or outperforming the incredible benchmarks that the current Unreal, Unity, or CryEngine versions are pumping out, is so absurd all I could do was laugh.

Do your own fucking research, or don't, I don't really care. Hell half the time I do post links / facts / quotes, I get the well ackshually bullshit so I'm over it. I get the forums can be a bit bias in GGG's favor, but holy fuck guys...

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Jul 7, 2022, 7:04:44 PM

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