Am I the only one who thinks that Path of Exile 2 is better than Diablo 4?
" Ignoring the useless subjectivity of 'better', especially between emotionally-charged gamers with their occasionally irrational loyalties, the question is then, 'better for whom?' For Exiles? Oh, come on. Not even a question worth asking. For anyone else? Well, they're not Exiles, and this is the Path of Exile discussion forum full of...Exiles, so who here cares what anyone else thinks? ^_^ Am I being unfair in creating that dichotomy? Maybe. But it's a hard one to resist, given the crux of this argument is predicated upon believing a mere expansion (and some deep-core mechanical overhauls) to a still-niche Game As Service can in any feasible way compete with an entirely new Game as Product with the most recognisable franchise name in ARPG history. Path of Exile '2' cannot 'compete' with Diablo 4 because it is not a complete game. But can it be 'better' for those already committed to what it builds on, such as the relentlessly pro-PoE OP? It not only 'can', but 'will'. It's like that comic where two people are arguing over whether the number on the ground is 68 or 89 because they're standing across from each other...except everyone here is standing on the same side and only pretending to imagine what it's like to stand in true opposition. You can only 'play' Devil's Advocate when you're amongst the believers, because to truly advocate for the Devil is to be...exiled from Heaven. The name says it all. Last edited by 鬼殺し#7371 on Jun 15, 2022, 5:32:44 AM
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" Most players? Most Diablo Immortal players? Most Candy Crush players? What are you talking about? You don't actually believe that "most" PoE players dislike PoE's complexity? If so, I seriously need some numbers, links and sources here. But I do agree with you on one point; debating which one is better is futile, because they appeal - partly - to different crowds. Those who value building, depth, character customization/specialization, itemization and the "R" in ARPG, will keep playing PoE/PoE2, while those that value simplicity, aesthetics, flow of combat and the "A" in ARGP, will play Diablo 4. To me, the "A" is far from enough. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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" This is a business metric, you aren't a business you are a consumer don't use their metrics they have absolutely no meaning to us. Like units sold is a sign of anything, most things that sell the most do so because they are cheap lmao its basically the opposite of a measure of what's "best" |
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" Most players in general, not fans of particular games. Well even PoE players complain about it, like a lot. Every league you have some topics that you need encyclopedia to play PoE or that you are forced to use a guide. Complex games never were very popular. " And yet thats the only measurable one. If a game has a lot of players it must be good, your subjective opinion on that matter is irrelevant. I dont like Fortnite but i cant deny its success, a lot of people love it so it must be good, for them. |
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" Are you serious here? Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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no but you are the only one begging for attention and maybe some info about PoE 2 in a thread like this.
Never invite Vorana, Last To Fall at a beer party.
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" I'll give you a hint, you don't apply this logic anywhere else in your life, nobody does. Subjective opinion is all any of us have got, if you play both and you think one is better than the other then it is. All there is to it. Using player count to measure something only related to your own taste.... just gross. |
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Honestly while both are aRPGs and have a similar feel asthetically, they are very differetn games and really target different players. Obviously there is plenty of overlap.
POE is a complex game that is not easy for casual players or newbs. There are many layers of complexity to build your characters that Diablo does not remotely come close to. That gives it MANY more options and builds that you can do, from the basics to the very off the wall meta. This both brings something that you can't get anywhere else as well as limits the accessibility to a wide player base. It will never have mass appeal due to that. Diablo games are much easier to get into and much less complex. You do not have to be a very good gamer to play them. It is much more casual gamer friendly thus brings much more mass appeal than POE ever will. Even with D3, which is a pretty crappy Diablo game, it has/had a much larger player base. Oh, and that was just comparing the game play. Once you get to marketing power, Diablo/Blizzard have a huge marketing advantage and that is something you will never see POE match. Even with Tencent behind them, you will never see the marketing that Blizzard has done for Diablo. So even if D4 is a boring game like D3, it will have millions buy and play it. It is just the way it is. The only thing that would seriously hurt it is if Blizzard goes back on their latest word and does indeed make it P2W. A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
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" Who sais that POE 2 wont have larger player base.I think POE 2 and POE 1 with POE 2 engine will bring such mass that GGG wont be able to handle :P. GGG thank you for all the great things you are doing. You have combined every element of all other great Rpg's and joined them together as one Diamond, that will shine Forever.
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" I wouldn't complain about that if it happened for sure. I do think POE 2 will give a serious boost as it will be truly new gameplay and lore. A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
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