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KalHirol wrote:
There is a certain goal most players go towards, a certain gear level, maybe level 100 and so.
Yet GGG somehow thinks by adding more and more hurdles to get to this goal that this will somehow make the game better?
It does the exact opposite.
I played to 99 last league with good gear and many other things.
I cannot achieve this gear level this league because you mega nerfed Ashes of the Stars droprate, you mega screwed delve with the new rares, you made the game way harder in general, while introducing more bugs and more annoyances.
More Hurdles.
So right now its harder to level than last league because of more deaths due to new rares and the mob HP has increased in general because of that (more time to kill anything). ,
its harder to get good gear through fossils and endgame unique drops,
it less fun to get HH right now because HH absolutely sucks right now, its way harder to deep delve because of all the BS you introduced + still bugged, while blight is also more frustrating, legion is XP nerfed and more rippy...
And somehow this is supposed to be better or more fun???
This league is absolute torture compared to the last one, I have 0 motivation to work towards any goals and this will not be fixed by some numeric changes.
As long as the new chaos mobs (homing chaos + vines) and the insane amount of ground effects and after death effects are in the game then Delve is unplayable.
You made it so that in a game about killing monster the best way to progress is to NOT kill any monsters in delve because otherwise they spawn auras, ground effects, debufss, after death effects.
If you just run past them, way better.
Assassin and Juggernaut make Blight unplayable.
Legion triggers after death effects when the mobs are still frozen!!
and then they trigger again when they unfreeze and die...
I could go on and on, I just dont see how making the game more annoying, harder and imbalanced, while proclaiming "no balance changes" is any improvement to this game or in any way honest to your playerbase.
If your goal with this was to motivate people to play longer then you absolutely failed, I cannot see myself playing this league for more than 1 week, i played last league for 8.
0 motivation to do anything, you are punished everywhere.
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Posted byG_PWN_RN#2489on May 18, 2022, 4:23:12 PM
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mariox1011 wrote:
Some of us don't want an easy game where you can get bis gear in a few days (harvest). I don't think the average player should be able to easily work their way up to t16 maps without farming a lot. If hard mode actually came out like Chris promised then I would be fine with making the standard league version easy.
There is a fine line between difficult and impossible.
I get that GGG does not want casual players in their game but :
T16 is a base line farming for aspirationnal content and it is where you should spend your time as an endgame player.
The problem is :
if you don't spend enough time in the game, you won't be in T16 by the end of the league.
GGG every league adds something to slow down those who don't play the game 12/7, those players won't reach T16 by the end of the league. They could play in standard, yes, but in 3 month they will have to start over the same way.
Whatever GGG does, they willl screw casual players whom play PoE for the fun.
Whatever GGG does, they will screw midcore players whom try to finish a character in a reasonnable time span (6-9 month) <- They don't play 12/7.
The only that are never screwed are streamers and 24/7 players of POE whom exploit all that is exploitable in the game.
Path of Exile is a Casino for gambling addicts.
Gambling is not fun nor a game mechanic... Last edited by Azarhiel#6045 on May 18, 2022, 4:49:40 PM
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Posted byAzarhiel#6045on May 18, 2022, 4:48:00 PM
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KalHirol wrote:
There is a certain goal most players go towards, a certain gear level, maybe level 100 and so.
Yet GGG somehow thinks by adding more and more hurdles to get to this goal that this will somehow make the game better?
It does the exact opposite.
I played to 99 last league with good gear and many other things.
I cannot achieve this gear level this league because you mega nerfed Ashes of the Stars droprate, you mega screwed delve with the new rares, you made the game way harder in general, while introducing more bugs and more annoyances.
More Hurdles.
So right now its harder to level than last league because of more deaths due to new rares and the mob HP has increased in general because of that (more time to kill anything). ,
its harder to get good gear through fossils and endgame unique drops,
it less fun to get HH right now because HH absolutely sucks right now, its way harder to deep delve because of all the BS you introduced + still bugged, while blight is also more frustrating, legion is XP nerfed and more rippy...
And somehow this is supposed to be better or more fun???
This league is absolute torture compared to the last one, I have 0 motivation to work towards any goals and this will not be fixed by some numeric changes.
As long as the new chaos mobs (homing chaos + vines) and the insane amount of ground effects and after death effects are in the game then Delve is unplayable.
You made it so that in a game about killing monster the best way to progress is to NOT kill any monsters in delve because otherwise they spawn auras, ground effects, debufss, after death effects.
If you just run past them, way better.
Assassin and Juggernaut make Blight unplayable.
Legion triggers after death effects when the mobs are still frozen!!
and then they trigger again when they unfreeze and die...
I could go on and on, I just dont see how making the game more annoying, harder and imbalanced, while proclaiming "no balance changes" is any improvement to this game or in any way honest to your playerbase.
If your goal with this was to motivate people to play longer then you absolutely failed, I cannot see myself playing this league for more than 1 week, i played last league for 8.
0 motivation to do anything, you are punished everywhere.
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Posted bymordawf#5376on May 18, 2022, 5:05:59 PM
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vlmndd wrote:
Same topics league in league out. It was more fun last league, then it was more fun the league before the last league and so on and so on ..
(Duplicate message?)
Last edited by Rakie1337#5746 on May 18, 2022, 5:38:14 PM
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Posted byRakie1337#5746on May 18, 2022, 5:37:19 PMOn Probation
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vlmndd wrote:
Same topics league in league out. It was more fun last league, then it was more fun the league before the last league and so on and so on ..
You're acting as if every new idea they have isn't dramatically worse than the last.
They keep upping the bar for stupid fucking ideas, and intolerable gameplay.
3.17 was the first time I had fun since 3.12, and 3.12 was the first time I had fun since 3.7/8.... Honestly, 3.9 - 3.11 and 3.13 - 3.16 were all 100% pure garbage. Not one redeeming factor.
I sincerely wish they had such a financial shock from 3.15 they would NEVER do something so stupid again.
This is significantly worse feeling than the 3.15 nerfs. Yeah, I'd take 3.15 a million fucking times before this horse shit.
Yeah, nearly every league ever made was better than this.
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Posted byRakie1337#5746on May 18, 2022, 5:37:55 PMOn Probation
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As a profesional platyer, theirs chances made PoE right dircetion.This is a competive market-based multiplayter game. It is not funzies but competivive laddr. We have a profesnoally developed team to implemet balanced manifest. Acording to Chris-vision, monser abilityies need to counter cazualized iownercreep.
Actully earning 4-5 ex is posible if you put in efort to trade efieciently, though it requres much knowledges. This is the pro way.
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Posted byvmt80#6169on May 18, 2022, 6:01:49 PM
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I have to agree, I barely can get to higher levels in the 90's because I just don't have the time to play. When I do have time I have to make a decision to settle on a budget build instead of try a build I want because I can no longer get items required to play my build because they decided to make it harder to acquire, like this is somehow a great thing to make players take 10x longer to get something. Instead now we have people just price fixing items and inflating prices. And casual players like myself are stuck trying to get geared and push into red maps.
Trade is already a huge problem, 3rd party websites, 4-5 app's to trade and then insane amount of bots and just people ignoring you when you need to trade/buy something. Then if you don't actually try and work the economy or do high end crafting for profit you will probably not make the money to buy high end gear.
Is it to much to ask that I just want to play the game, get loot and upgrade my character without having to use this broken trade system so much?
This league does not feel fun at all....
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Posted byParagon1#4769on May 18, 2022, 6:10:40 PM
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Azarhiel wrote:
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mariox1011 wrote:
Some of us don't want an easy game where you can get bis gear in a few days (harvest). I don't think the average player should be able to easily work their way up to t16 maps without farming a lot. If hard mode actually came out like Chris promised then I would be fine with making the standard league version easy.
There is a fine line between difficult and impossible.
I get that GGG does not want casual players in their game but :
T16 is a base line farming for aspirationnal content and it is where you should spend your time as an endgame player.
The problem is :
if you don't spend enough time in the game, you won't be in T16 by the end of the league.
GGG every league adds something to slow down those who don't play the game 12/7, those players won't reach T16 by the end of the league. They could play in standard, yes, but in 3 month they will have to start over the same way.
Whatever GGG does, they willl screw casual players whom play PoE for the fun.
Whatever GGG does, they will screw midcore players whom try to finish a character in a reasonnable time span (6-9 month) <- They don't play 12/7.
The only that are never screwed are streamers and 24/7 players of POE whom exploit all that is exploitable in the game.
TO a large extent I agree with this statement. I used to be able to play a lot more, now with work I don't have that many hours a week to play. Where some hardcore players get 100 in few days I can barely reach level 99 in 3 months. Much less have the time and energy to push end game content.
Last league I finished like 36 challenges and did every boss in the game, felt great and was fun. This league is so frustrating that I am ready to call it quits. Feels bad man...
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Posted byParagon1#4769on May 18, 2022, 6:15:06 PM
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KalHirol wrote:
I cannot achieve this gear level this league because you mega nerfed Ashes of the Stars droprate
19 Runs and counting for me. Genuinely curious how long this is going to take
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Posted byXiipher#7925on May 18, 2022, 11:11:33 PM
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GGGlizzard are making everything perfect, idk what are you talking about!
Slow down for a minute to enjoy the beauty around us.
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Posted bycanilaz_#3454on May 18, 2022, 11:42:45 PM
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