This end game grind is excruciating and I don't like it.

I'm not a big fan of doing what I dont like. Maybe play std so you are at end game after one grind. I play SSF STD because I found literally everything and dont like trade so no reason repeat it all.

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Bracks_ZA wrote:

You sound extremely low effort and your profile shows that. If you don't want to take time to learn and research, then you should go and play a casual game like Diablo.

A person who knows nothing about the diablo games and just parrots an inane opinion started by people disappointed with either the mass botting and duping in d2 classic or the end of the active life of d3 who vented their anger by ntr-ing a video game, has the audacity to talk about learning and research.

Here's the thing, go do some research and see how many hours of grind do high treasure class items and high runes take to farm in d2. As for the d3 it is about as casual as deep delve. Its an infinite scaling game where eventually everything one hits you and you take hours to kill a white mob. In that game all mobs have the crowd control resistance poe bosses have (the more often you cc the harder it gets to cc them sucessfuly) and wizard builds play like a piano with a chronometer attached.

What poe has on those games isn't difficulty, its breadth of content and complexity. Advantages that are growing constantly since this game isnt on life support yet.

As for me (if you are even talking about me) being low effort, than frankly yes, that I am. This is my main complaint - the genre is repetitive and tedious and it takes a lot of boring grindy repetition to get anywhere. THIS however is not a problem - leagues can be balanced as is to keep the esports type of players and the streamers interested and engaged. What is the problem is bricking legacy items in standard, killing and butchering passive nodes on the tree and neutering gems. Again i don't mind not making progress in temp league as long as i have infinite time to finish a project in standard. That however is not the case which creates the pressure to constantly grind before your build is killed , which in turn takes away all pleasure and leaves one with the feeling of unpaid overtime. And low effort folk like me dont do unpaid overtime. :P

D2 casual game?

Into the "out of touch takes" box this one goes.

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As for me (if you are even talking about me) being low effort, than frankly yes, that I am. This is my main complaint - the genre is repetitive and tedious and it takes a lot of boring grindy repetition to get anywhere. THIS however is not a problem - leagues can be balanced as is to keep the esports type of players and the streamers interested and engaged. What is the problem is bricking legacy items in standard, killing and butchering passive nodes on the tree and neutering gems. Again i don't mind not making progress in temp league as long as i have infinite time to finish a project in standard. That however is not the case which creates the pressure to constantly grind before your build is killed , which in turn takes away all pleasure and leaves one with the feeling of unpaid overtime. And low effort folk like me dont do unpaid overtime. :P

Same here.

What is effort anyway according to such people? Number of hours I can sacrifice per league? That is not effort, that is having messed up priorities or no responsibilities.