Whats the point of purposefully frustrating & annoying mechanics

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impulze3 wrote:

Volatile Flameblood on-death effects
Grasping Vines
Shroudwalker Buff
Bloodlines Fire/Cold Explosion on-death effects
Essence cold explosion on-death effect
Harvest monster exploding eggs
DoT puddles
Time Dilation Delirium debuffs
Beyond Off-screen monster attacks

I get HH buffs, suddenly i cannot move due to grasping vines. flamebloods chase me down, dash on cooldown. i manage to dash away, straight onto a pile of bloodline on-death effects that oneshot me through any amount of defence.

Every time this sort of stuff happens it just frustrates me to the point where i don't want to play anymore.

I get that the devs designed themselves into a corner here when characters can kill multiple screens per second and some how "need to kill the player". but this type of "killing the player" is just plain and simple lazy, uninspired and ultimately bad for the game. People don't know what killed them, there is nothing to learn, you just get punished for no reason (atleast thats how it appears to most). People get frustrated, quit the game and play something else.

Does the lead designer want people to quit or whats the deal with keeping and introducing more and more of these types of 'randomly kill player fast' mechanics ?

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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R3cKiTT wrote:

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Draegnarrr wrote:

most of those are fine only grasping vines I think is a bit sketch for the same reason the delirium 95% slow zones are sketch.

Its flavour, your basically asking why monsters do anything lmao if anything they already do too little.

However the idea that you get killed for no reason by these really isn't the case, you can build around them and its pretty simple to do so but for most players the build cost isn't worth it vs an occasional portal.

You are right that GGG designed themselves into a corner on this one though

You say you could build around it all. But tell the people how to build around those pack of skeletons throwing fireballs ? or those cows throwing bolt lightning things ?

Max res at 85% -
spell suppress at 93% -
chance to block attack around 50% -
evasion around 80-90% -
physical damage reduction about 70% -
immune to all elemental ailments
5.5k life -
50% reduced curse effect -
probably even have reduced damage in there including elemental % on the pantheon


and yet, 2 bolts can kill you ! yeah sure you can dodge them yourself which is fine. But what damage is it even doing. Last thing i can think of is the need to have life regen over 1000 minimum to withstand the blows somewhat

Just looked up your profile.
You have 75% max res, not 85%.
You got 75% spell supression, not 93%.
0% spell block. You also have no protection against critical strikes.

So if you get oneshot by a Fireball from a skeleton. It's probably safe to assume that it might have been an Elemental crit that went through your spell suppression. You got 54k EHP. People in this thread are right. You can build around everything and be tanky. Your build is squishy and you can solve it by getting defensive layers.

There's a reason why people are able to literally build immortal builds.
Your build is not tanky at all and it has glaring weaknesses that opens you up to oneshots.

While the game does have some stupid crap, it's not like you're unable to build around it. Your build can make alot of changes to actually become tanky.
But instead you come here and say it's impossible with fabricated statsof your own character.

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mrhouston wrote:

The problem is not dying; things that can kill you no matter what makes for some nice action trying to avoid them. Take them out and there will be more boredom.

The problem, that has been pointed ad infinitum here, is the death experience penalty.

When people become stuck because of it, unable to level up or find the equipment they need to improve the build; they sometimes play lower tier maps, discover how much it is slow and boring to do so and leave (you don't find items to improve your build in low-tier maps); or leave in a rage for having died like that and having lost experience again.

People want to feel always advancing, like their playtime is worth something. Death experience penalty makes you wonder why you are wasting your time for nothing. Or less than nothing.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Then ppl need to play safer maps.