Should 5Way Hosts be Getting All Timeless Jewels?
" Fantastic argument. I actually think you do realize that no party leader control would create a lot more tilting situations, but you are too stubborn and just keep debating anyhow. Tell me again, please: What is so wrong with the fact that the party leader (and provider of all emblems) is getting access the the special unique drops from the encounter he is paying for/providing? Nah... Top thread number on: "This freakin' guy stole MY Watcher's Eye from the Elder fight I provided and payed for". Top thread number two: "This freakin' guy stole MY Ashe's amulet from the Eater fight I payed for" Emblems are cheap. Timeless jewels are cheap. I don't see why this is such a huge problem, especially if you take some time to actually think about the alternatives. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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"Am I wrong? You created a hypothetical scenario where someone is doing a 2ex value service for free then complains because they aren't profiting enough. Talk about a fantastic argument. If you're that good of friends they should either be willing to pay at a lower rate (25c, 50c, whatever) or realize that you're doing them a massive favor and not be yoinking the loot. What's wrong with that logic? "Disregarding your hypothetical charity for greedy friends scenario that comprises maybe .0001% of all 5-ways ran in a league, the host is not paying for the encounter. The customers are paying for the encounter twice over and then some. Do you need it spelled out? Vaal 5c Karui 5c Eternal 5c Templar 20c Maraketh 70c Total 105c x5 runs 4ex Entry cost for 5 runs 2ex (resetter 1.5) x5 customers 9.5ex That emblem cost to profit ratio is like if someone who ran an Uber Elder voidstone service charged 5 customers at a time 75c each and said they still need watchers eye to pay off the fragments. "Lol you really are not capable of having this conversation without strawmanning even after being called out for it are you? I'm not suggesting that the change be made to ALL content-specific drops. It's sad that you feel you need to continue twisting my words in order to defeat my argument that's apparently such terrible nonsense. Last edited by Anomaly33#2899 on Mar 1, 2022, 9:42:56 PM
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1: Takes a lot of time/effort to gather the gear needed
2: Takes investment/time buying the emblems 3: Takes a LONG time gathering people to join service group(unless streamer) 4: Takes a while to run 5x 5 ways 5: Takes a while to sell things that dropped during said 5 way. So 5.5 ex profit for 1 5x 5 way service seems more than fair. Especially considering they could do similar services for close to same profit. As for allocation for jewels it is 100% fair that the owner gets the encounter spesific drops. It prevents more issues than it creates. Plus the runner can still decide to flip them for the others to grab if he/she should decide to. We are reading what you are saying OP. We just simply disagree on all levels. Deal with it. Last edited by arknath#4740 on Mar 1, 2022, 11:09:03 PM
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" You disagree with OP? UNPOSSIBLE! You clearly have not read the post or don't know what you disagree with! Their assertions are UNDISAGREEABLE - here's my sig
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"Nah You can disagree with me. Just don't be a strawmanning asshat about it. In what world does suggesting GGG change timeless jewels to be treated as normal loot through PA equate to: 1. saying 5-ways hosts don't deserve to be compensated for their investment? 2. saying 5-way hosts shouldn't be allowed to run groups how they want? 3. saying every encounter-specific drop in the game should be randomly assigned through PA? I'm sure you just love it when people put words in your mouth. |
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i really dislike getting into slow xp groups where people bicker over the pennies that drop. waiting in town cause someone paying close to 3 ex for a 5 minute run needs an extra 3 minutes to pick up 10c worth of fusings/alterations/scours.
if you can afford 5 way xp leveling, your time should be worth more than the timeless jewels imo. |
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" This is exactly the reason why ggg implemented this system. And it's a good thing they did, forums would indeed be spammed by posts like these. [Removed by Support] Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” Last edited by jackof8lades#6863 on Mar 2, 2022, 9:57:11 AM
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OP just wants free money because hurr durr someone who's heavily invested into a money making strat makes 12ex+ / h
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OP is going to get the last word in, I know it.
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If a host wants to make this possible they can set FFA loot.
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