Lost Ark is quest runner, POE is a mobb smasher, they don't even play similar

LA isn't a PoE killer. I really wish people would stop with that nonsense. Hell, EverQuest is still around. Nothing really kills a game except the developers themselves.

For me, PoE is a great game. The one-shot stuff is incredibly annoying though. I don't play it because I am enjoying other games as well. I just don't have enough time for them all. I also can't decide on a build to stick with. I have the Cyclone Slayer, RF Jugg, and a Witch Summoner type which are all super fun to play. My desire is to play all SSF but grinding for those specific items is a daunting task.

I won't lie, LA has been fun so far. The beginning is a little slow but the story line right before you get your stronghold was incredible. I played WoW since release, the original (and all iterations) of Diablo, as well as many other MMO's. LA seems, at this point (level 30) to be checking off all the boxes. Yes, there's time gated stuff but, like WoW, there's lots to do. We will see in a few more weeks if it keeps it's appeal.

I like both, so I will play both. I'd like to do all the big fights in PoE I just don't think I have the mental capacity to tweak my character like that, especially in SSF where I'd need a few years of grinding to get that character to that point.

To each their own! Play what you enjoy!

Played so LA since the game opened, it's hard to compare it to PoE but here's a few points:

The Dungeons are good, fun group play, with an easy to use group finder.

Boss fights are fun, major attacks are telegraphed well.

Crafting seems complex.

Stronghold is done really well.

Campaign is good, it serves as the tutorial same as PoE's acts 1-10. Fetch quest heavy, but fetch quests have chances for bosses to spawn dropping better loot.

Character can respec pretty easily, in fact, you can switch between specs in the middle of a battle (as long as no skills are on cooldowns)

It's not a 1 key game, you are regularly using all the skills on your bar.

PVP seems integrated and well thought out.

The Power Boost of Characters is welcome, you can boost 3 (i think) characters to L50 after completing the campaign on your first character.

Oh, the Pet functions are awesome, autolooting Vorpal Bunny!

Only hit L30 so far, so no idea what the later game looks like, but having fun so far.

Both games are new to me - lost ark resembles hack n slash linked to World of Warcraft, while PoE resembles Diablo 2

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MaxGrib wrote:

Both games are new to me - lost ark resembles hack n slash linked to World of Warcraft, while PoE resembles Diablo 2

+1. Lost Ark is an MMO, and should be judged accordingly. It's not an ARPG like PoE is. The only thing the two have in common is the camera angle. Even for people who enjoy both genres, what they like about each game will differ.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

why so many threads in poe about la? new crossover?

Give a MMO a isometric view, suddenly it's comparable to PoE.

No idea man

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MaxGrib wrote:

Both games are new to me - lost ark resembles hack n slash linked to World of Warcraft, while PoE resembles Diablo 2

There is nothing hack n slash about it. It's a MMO with a isometric view. I'm 15 hours into it, not once did I feel it is anything like PoE, Diablo or whatnot.

Okay. I’m on my phone at work on day 6 out of 7 so haven’t got to devote a ton to gameplay. I have played both, and I’m going to tell you what Lost Ark really is.

It’s an amalgamation of every bad (but profitable)p2w model I have ever played and you can’t tell me it doesn’t have Sonov/Choi Rock, Bluehole, Trion employees aren’t Liveplex’s core.

Enchant rocks directly from Shaiya with failure rates and breakage.

30/60/90/120 Rees runes (sort of) to protect you character on death at high levels from Shaiya

Property ownership from Black Desert with Archeage’s taxes. Taxes on workshop too. Guild premiums

Gear worthless until top level and enchanted.

Rapport system to get npcs to love you that require item mall items or 4 years of daily quests to level

The game already shows poor rebalancing of quests where you are asked to kill 40 but complete the quest after killing 4 mobs, because the game was designed with too few mobs in a global map that everyone shares for grinding, which results in mob denial. Mob xp is also listed as like 2-4 yet somehow levels you as fast as 9300xp quest. Obviously the developers and Korean players had different ideas on grinding, since it’s already like this on global release.

72Gb game. You thought Poe was large.
Steam throttles Ram like you wouldn’t believe

The game skills are pure button mashing. Long cooldowns but can clear with anything and they don’t feel like good combo skills

The game already has people who have spent over $100000 because not only is the game p2w, it also has a universal currency exchange that allows you to sell you tokens, trade directly for gold, or for crystals to buy from the secondary currency shops. Price manipulation is already happening on scales Poe never sees.

End game is guild owned, and nothing was done to separate Korean player/early release countries from the global release-good luck competing

Character model creation is face only (garbage) and seems copied from Black Desert. Body design an costumes have no cohesion. Objects float inside others.

Emotes copy pasted from Every other game, with non desirable dances.
I found a really nasty character/costume flaw when using Sit command with Shadowblade/Assassin/whateverimatwork : when you sit using her thong endowed Demonic Costume from being a plat founder, she gains something: a Big bulge in the thong that looks like a tail or something else…as a mismatch of hexagons. Disgusting find on a “polished “ game.

If a streamer endorsed this game on Poe, they were paid to.

I think this goes a little further.

* LA is incredibly well optimized.

*My region isn't the best there is for adequate latency, but unlike PoE, in LA I can play with 0 Rubber Bandings.

*The chat doesn't look like something made in the time of mirc

*In LA the multiplayer really exists and it's not like a truck carrying volatile material where pressing "Alt" can ruin everything.

*In LA leveling is not an unpleasant pain.


* The combats in LA, and especially the skills, have a real contrast between them, they have an identity. In poe, there are countless skills, but we don't feel any difference in the gameplay, it's like "projectiles" or "rays of light" with different colors, there's no inspiration.


PoE despite having constant updates, in many ways it still feels like an outdated and very old game.

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rekikyo wrote:

The game already has people who have spent over $100000 because not only is the game p2w, it also has a universal currency exchange that allows you to sell you tokens, trade directly for gold, or for crystals to buy from the secondary currency shops. Price manipulation is already happening on scales Poe never sees.

But-but-but- PoE has gambling boxes that abuse people's worst impulses...! How immoral!/s

I can't imagine anyone going that far overboard with Supporter packs and MTX. Well, not since GGG stopped offering the Moby Dick-sized whale packs... =^[.]^=

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Raycheetah wrote:

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rekikyo wrote:

The game already has people who have spent over $100000 because not only is the game p2w, it also has a universal currency exchange that allows you to sell you tokens, trade directly for gold, or for crystals to buy from the secondary currency shops. Price manipulation is already happening on scales Poe never sees.

But-but-but- PoE has gambling boxes that abuse people's worst impulses...! How immoral!/s

I can't imagine anyone going that far overboard with Supporter packs and MTX. Well, not since GGG stopped offering the Moby Dick-sized whale packs... =^[.]^=

Yeah. Both you and I have obvious MTX habits, but when we see the Supporter packs over, and spend a couple $20 on top for some sort of skill skin, etc, we're done.

On Lost Ark, there are people blowing enough money to fund entire guilds, because they view it as the "game just starting and I want to occupy it." They most likely are Streamers, who have game money to spend, who will profit from spending that way.

I don't give the game more than 4 years before it's sold and chopped up to publishers. It's stolen almost every single facet of the game from another game, and no single mechanism or concept is genuinely new or optimized. The game even steals directly from your Warcraft III encounter with Medivh and substitutes Morpheus and a 3 eyed Crow for the Raven. The story is so weak it wouldn't impress a 13 year old. Bad guy is always one step ahead of you, by using you to find info (what kind of circular crap....).

I'm pretty sure they even stole Vampire's model core and walking structure from Forsaken World to design Assassin > Shadowhunter. Even the weapons hanging on her back look like they are designed similar to the Vampire race's Cross from that game.

I love people getting on here saying that LA is optimized when Steam loads your RAM up 60 GB of virtual Memory in 4 hours of play, the game has a 72GB size, and the monster AI looks like it was designed in Everquest days.

I don't know what these people are smoking.

I was amazed that LA had about 1 million viewers. That's just insane amount and even new PoE season launch doesn't get even close. I was sure that so many interested persons can't be wrong. Lost Ark must be good.

But I was wrong. Everything in that game puts a puke to mouth. I'm convinced massive amount of PoE streamers that have moved into that game are there for short term money maybe?

On the other hand there were less elements of ARPG in LA than I expected. It's purely MMO but looks horrible generic one.