Lost Ark is quest runner, POE is a mobb smasher, they don't even play similar

why not compare CS GO or minecraft with poe?

LA is the worst MMO i have ever played. Comparing it with poe just blatant false advertising. The ONLY thing they have in common is perspective view.

It will be interesting to see how many people will still play LA in a few weeks when it is no longer the new news…

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rekikyo wrote:

The facts are that the games are not even remotely similar in ANY WAY.

Well, this is how Steam classified the two games:

POE
GENRE: Action, Adventure, Free to Play, Indie, Massively Multiplayer, RPG

Lost Ark
GENRE: Action, Adventure, Free to Play, Massively Multiplayer, RPG

The only difference between the two is the Indie tag for POE. We need to notify Steam that they misclassified POE or Lost Ark, ASAP.

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zakalwe55 wrote:

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rekikyo wrote:

The facts are that the games are not even remotely similar in ANY WAY.

Well, this is how Steam classified the two games:

POE
GENRE: Action, Adventure, Free to Play, Indie, Massively Multiplayer, RPG

Lost Ark
GENRE: Action, Adventure, Free to Play, Massively Multiplayer, RPG

The only difference between the two is the Indie tag for POE. We need to notify Steam that they misclassified POE or Lost Ark, ASAP.

Or you care more about vague labels than actual gameplay, target market, pay strategy/integration, combat style, quest style, skill style, scope, travel type, gear type, etc?

Resident Evil VIIIage has almost all the same tags as well. Is RE VIIIAGE in direct competition with POE?

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

Lost Ark is a que simulator, it's not even a game, they're reeling you in with waifus and P2W packages just to slap you into a que where they crypto-slave your rig while it's waiting for hours.

I've spent precisely zero time in que...because I didn't choose a over flowing server. As for the last part, joking I assume but who knows

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rekikyo wrote:

Alienware

lol. Specs are relevant. Alienware( Dell) is not.

10th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 10900K (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 3 .7GHz to 5.3GHz w/Thermal Velo city Boost)
RAM: 64.0 GB (63.8 GB usable) DIMM,32GB,3200,2R,16G,DDR4,NS
2TB (2x 1TB PCIe M.2 SSD) RAID 0 [Boot] + 2TB (2x 1TB PCIe M .2 SSD) Non-Raid [Storage]
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Super
555-BGBF : Killer(TM) Wi-Fi6 AX1650 Wireless Driver
555-BFPT : Killer(TM) Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 (2x2 ) 802.11ax Wireless and Bluetooth

Need anything else? /*slaps face.

Steam throttles DL at 5 MB/sec, and actively guzzles RAM. Hence why I use my Control Center for POE vs playing some laggy third party Steam for it.

Steam does okay on single player games like RE: VIIIage but it's horrendous for optimizing MMORPGs.

For reference: the only things my machine falls behind on vs modern high end gaming computers: framerate. I can get a screen up to 144 mhz but it was shipped at 60mhz, which is fine, doesn't overheat, etc.

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rekikyo wrote:

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zakalwe55 wrote:

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rekikyo wrote:

The facts are that the games are not even remotely similar in ANY WAY.

Well, this is how Steam classified the two games:

POE
GENRE: Action, Adventure, Free to Play, Indie, Massively Multiplayer, RPG

Lost Ark
GENRE: Action, Adventure, Free to Play, Massively Multiplayer, RPG

The only difference between the two is the Indie tag for POE. We need to notify Steam that they misclassified POE or Lost Ark, ASAP.

Or you care more about vague labels than actual gameplay, target market, pay strategy/integration, combat style, quest style, skill style, scope, travel type, gear type, etc?

Resident Evil VIIIage has almost all the same tags as well. Is RE VIIIAGE in direct competition with POE?

False, Resident Evil Village does not have the same tags as well.
Resident Evil Village only has the Genre: Action tag. Based on this, Resident Evil Village is not in direct competition with POE.

You have NO credibility.

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CanHazName wrote:

I really don't see the appeal of Lost Ark, I played up until that point when you're killing demons in town and was unbelievably bored the entire time. It's literally just top down Tera, but way slower paced, with simpler gameplay and better graphics.

Absolutely no way this game's not gonna start dying pretty quickly.

It's an MMO, people always are hyped for MMOs since WoW, and everytime they quickly leave the boat because it's terrible once the new shiny stuff effect is gone, tbh, WoW was just an incident, MMOs always were niche and always will be, people do not understand their essence and always want to see it the way they're not.

Ironically, you could sum things like this :

What people deeply dream of : play Skyrim, TW3 and other RPG with friends in co-ops.
What they get : terribly repetitive endgame loops ("hey, pvp or raid ?") with thousands of "saviour or our worlds" heroes with copy/pasta stuff.

And we'll never have a true co-op RPG, so people will keep on falling for traps like New World or Lost Ark. Now is the stage where hardcore early fans spams forum with "BUT LA HAS INSANE POTENTIAL AND ENDGAME IF BLABLABLA", let's wait a few months for them to remember what a korean MMO is.

We can say a lot of things about POE, but the current state of the game is better than it always was, and it's honest when pretending to be an Arpg with crapload of mobs to instantly bash.

Both games are different, Poe is honest, GGG's marketing speech also is about this. LA's is an honest game, but their marketing isn't, very much thanks to good old trashy AF "amazing liars" Amazon.

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Leandrysrx8 wrote:

Both games are different, Poe is honest, GGG's marketing speech also is about this.

Pardon me. But I can not agree with you on this. GGG had shown time and again they just care about hype and hype for new league on release. Did you forget about the recent hidden nerfs disguising as buffs?

At the end of the day, all companies care about their bottom line. So don't pretend GGG is any different.

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Leandrysrx8 wrote:

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CanHazName wrote:

I really don't see the appeal of Lost Ark, I played up until that point when you're killing demons in town and was unbelievably bored the entire time. It's literally just top down Tera, but way slower paced, with simpler gameplay and better graphics.

Absolutely no way this game's not gonna start dying pretty quickly.

It's an MMO, people always are hyped for MMOs since WoW, and everytime they quickly leave the boat because it's terrible once the new shiny stuff effect is gone, tbh, WoW was just an incident, MMOs always were niche and always will be, people do not understand their essence and always want to see it the way they're not.

Ironically, you could sum things like this :

And we'll never have a true co-op RPG, so people will keep on falling for traps like New World or Lost Ark. Now is the stage where hardcore early fans spams forum with "BUT LA HAS INSANE POTENTIAL AND ENDGAME IF BLABLABLA", let's wait a few months for them to remember what a korean MMO is.

We can say a lot of things about POE, but the current state of the game is better than it always was, and it's honest when pretending to be an Arpg with crapload of mobs to instantly bash.

Both games are different, Poe is honest, GGG's marketing speech also is about this. LA's is an honest game, but their marketing isn't, very much thanks to good old trashy AF "amazing liars" Amazon.

Generally agree with a lot of this, but (I hate I'm doing this) I have to say; there were very real economic reasons that WoW was a success (even though I never played it, hated it, and chose to play Guild Wars instead).

Warcraft had:
-A Pre-existing action/RPG/Simulator player base with the successes of Diablo > Warcraft I/II/III and Starcraft, in a vacuum where online gaming didn't have any real competitors in this sector. Most WoW players didn't start out as MMORPG players coming from games like Everquest or Elder Scrolls; they were Blizzard/Warcraft veterans who already subscribe to the franchise. There's no better market building tool that a pre-existing community.

-Pioneer in MMORPG presence among 3-D role playing. When you are the first of something, and take that gamble, the rewards are massive. Guild Wars didn't release until 2 years after WoW, and was literally the only direct competition that WoW had in this field. There was a massive demand for MMORPGs of quality, and the first entry into a category has absolutely no problems cornering 1/2 or better of the potential market for the product, and it takes a LONG time for that community to siphon off and find games that satisfy their diverse interests better. It wasn't until we started seeing things like Shaiya/Perfect World and shortly after, Tera, that WoW had real competition (and Shaiya/Perfect World weren't QUALITY competitors, but they offered something WoW didn't: Free Play)

There will probably never be another World of Warcraft. There may be one in virtual gaming, but for flat screen games, that's over. The web of ideas is just too abundant now for that to ever happen again.