HALF of playerbase has quit in 1 WEEK

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LiMA6 wrote:

You do not understand the issues. This league is far more boring than scourge. I'll explain later once I'm done with this league, which is soon.

There are improvements to atlas to ease confusion indeed but in the grand scheme of things, this league is just boring nonsense. More on that later.

Leagues come and leagues go. Some of them are good, some of them less so. But the core game remains, and when the core game takes so many steps in the right direction, and gives so much new stuff to encounter and dabble with, I can take one average league.

I would call the core game "grand scheme of things", and not the league.

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Phrazz wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

You do not understand the issues. This league is far more boring than scourge. I'll explain later once I'm done with this league, which is soon.

There are improvements to atlas to ease confusion indeed but in the grand scheme of things, this league is just boring nonsense. More on that later.

Leagues come and leagues go. Some of them are good, some of them less so. But the core game remains, and when the core game takes so many steps in the right direction, and gives so much new stuff to encounter and dabble with, I can take one average league.

I would call the core game "grand scheme of things", and not the league.

I would most certainly argue that the "core game" is in fact the problem. Without a new league every 3 months there would be nothing in terms of player interest. I'm shocked to hear you think leagues can come and go because you like core PoE.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

I would most certainly argue that the "core game" is in fact the problem. Without a new league every 3 months there would be nothing in terms of player interest. I'm shocked to hear you think leagues can come and go because you like core PoE.

Well, that's the difference between you and me: I like the game and find it fun, you don't. I didn't need flashing leagues to make me come back to Diablo 2 back in the days either, because I like(d) the game. Leagues are very subjective and everyone can't like every league - but if you like the game and find it fun, you can ignore the league mechanic if it isn't your cup of tea.

I think you should get out more and experience the world if that actually "shocks you".

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Phrazz wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

I would most certainly argue that the "core game" is in fact the problem. Without a new league every 3 months there would be nothing in terms of player interest. I'm shocked to hear you think leagues can come and go because you like core PoE.

Well, that's the difference between you and me: I like the game and find it fun, you don't. I didn't need flashing leagues to make me come back to Diablo 2 back in the days either, because I like(d) the game. Leagues are very subjective and everyone can't like every league - but if you like the game and find it fun, you can ignore the league mechanic if it isn't your cup of tea.

I think you should get out more and experience the world if that actually "shocks you".

Agreed. I hated hard on scourge (what an ass mechanic through and through), and because the 'core' game was ALSO unfun (Watchstone shuffling, atlas trees tied to regions ect) I didn't play long at all.

But now, the core game is a blast. I've got more scarabs then I know what to do with for the first time, I can ACTUALLY farm what past mechanic I want to because of the awesome atlas tree, and actually trying to target different sub boss / bosses to farm is fun. The league itself? Very tedious and it got old fast. It's also somewhat frustrating to have it pop up ALL over every map you run (even the lab). But because the core game is fun, and I essentially skip arch nemesis 3/4 maps, I've played a lot more.

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Phrazz wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

I would most certainly argue that the "core game" is in fact the problem. Without a new league every 3 months there would be nothing in terms of player interest. I'm shocked to hear you think leagues can come and go because you like core PoE.

Well, that's the difference between you and me: I like the game and find it fun, you don't. I didn't need flashing leagues to make me come back to Diablo 2 back in the days either, because I like(d) the game. Leagues are very subjective and everyone can't like every league - but if you like the game and find it fun, you can ignore the league mechanic if it isn't your cup of tea.

I think you should get out more and experience the world if that actually "shocks you".

Count this as a third vote for what Phrazz said.

People hit the wall and quit. A small upgrade cost ton of exalts and hours grinding

People agreeing with me? Now he must be real shocked.

I mean the league mechanic at WORST is just "Throw on gigantic or whatever it's called" kill the mob, throw on 1-2 more easy mods. Reap currency.

Trying to climb the reward ladder by mixing them feels tedious though so I can't blame people for not liking that but I'm enjoying the free stuff I am getting from it.

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Phrazz wrote:

People agreeing with me? Now he must be real shocked.

Meh. I still find it hard to believe that "most" people like the game outside of the fresh league gimmick each quarter. The numbers and feedback seem to support that, which again, just reflects on the core game itself imo.

That said, who am I to keep people from doing what they like? I was just surprised, sort of, that you liked the same old core game, but that's ok. Personally I've had a much better time in Lost Ark, Horizon FW, and Elden Ring in a few days. And that's ok too. PoE just doesn't respect my time anymore, and it's not fun to me. I don't like the direction the team is taking the game. Who knows when that might change again, if ever.

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Mikrotherion wrote:

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bgdmm wrote:

It was... never, of course.

But you will get the standard answer: nonono everything was better in (g)olden days... You know the drill.

Yes, I too think it was better in the golden days... the days when you really had to watch out for those Rhoas, when Skeletons, the staple easy starter enemy of any aRPG could really, I quote, rape you, when you were careful in the Shipyard Cave because those flickering pirate ghosts could really ruin your day, when Merveil without decent cold res meant being frozen and killed in a matter of seconds, when Piety was not to be trifled with and Dominus was a boss you farmed when you had levelled up in maps a bit, when even white mobs had some sort of HP and strength and it wasn't all about swarming the player with weak mobs but having fewer but stronger ones.
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But what you are saying is actually completely opposite - Bosscannon was claiming that in some long gone, mythical PoE times, game was somehow much more fun because it was, supposedly, much easier.

My point was that there never were such "easy peasy" times in PoE, it's just BS, made up nostalgia of some mythical, golden times, where everything was better, which Bosscannon (and, seemingly, many others) believe(s) in, for some reason...

That's kinda the point. In the "(g)olden days", the game was not easier. :o)