HALF of playerbase has quit in 1 WEEK

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Exile009 wrote:

I guess PoE has become like WoW, where everyone claims there was a some golden era and the game always seems to be "dying" but never actually dies, just keeps trucking. Not a bad thing to be compared with - WoW is a highly successful game.

Both will actually die one day of course. But that's still one hell of good run.

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Izrakhan wrote:

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Exile009 wrote:

I guess PoE has become like WoW, where everyone claims there was a some golden era and the game always seems to be "dying" but never actually dies, just keeps trucking. Not a bad thing to be compared with - WoW is a highly successful game.

Both will actually die one day of course. But that's still one hell of good run.

Games with various activities tend to have groups who come to the game for different reasons. MMORPGs and sometimes ARPGs have this complexity.

So you cannot look at the community as a lone voice. It isn't. It's a chorus of different likes/dislikes based on the persona of the person speaking at the time and it's impossible to make each one of them happy with the core game.

So its better to understand critical mass. That is the point in which more players are unhappy than are happy. For years devs can ignore the majority and it will cost them dearly. That's how you go from 12 million subscribers to less than a million. It doesn't happen all at once. Rather from a thousand cuts and over a period of years you realize it's not what it used to be.

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Exile009 wrote:

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Izrakhan wrote:

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Exile009 wrote:

I guess PoE has become like WoW, where everyone claims there was a some golden era and the game always seems to be "dying" but never actually dies, just keeps trucking. Not a bad thing to be compared with - WoW is a highly successful game.

Both will actually die one day of course. But that's still one hell of good run.

Games with various activities tend to have groups who come to the game for different reasons. MMORPGs and sometimes ARPGs have this complexity.

So you cannot look at the community as a lone voice. It isn't. It's a chorus of different likes/dislikes based on the persona of the person speaking at the time and it's impossible to make each one of them happy with the core game.

So its better to understand critical mass. That is the point in which more players are unhappy than are happy. For years devs can ignore the majority and it will cost them dearly. That's how you go from 12 million subscribers to less than a million. It doesn't happen all at once. Rather from a thousand cuts and over a period of years you realize it's not what it used to be.

That can be said about any community, not just MMOs or ARPGs. It's never a lone voice. As for PoE, the game still has a 90% positive rating on Steam. By contrast Lost Ark just came out and this forum has multiple threads on it, including one labeling it as a 'PoE Killer', yet it's rated 69% on Steam.

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Exile009 wrote:

As for PoE, the game still has a 90% positive rating on Steam. By contrast Lost Ark just came out and this forum has multiple threads on it, including one labeling it as a 'PoE Killer', yet it's rated 69% on Steam.

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MECHanokl wrote:

The game has such a low rating because it got review bombed on Steam (and metacritic) by europeans whose servers are completely overloaded with people, so they have massive issues with matchmaking and long server queues. This really sucks, but has nothing to do with the quality of the games itself, only the service provider.

Despite these massive issues, they refuse to stop playing the game. People leave computers running early morning, start the game remotely from work to avoid queues just to play this "terrible game" with mixed reviews. It still has over 1 million concurent players on Steam (not counting Russia, Japan, and additional 200k+ players in Korea), which is absolutely insane for any game, not to mention an MMO (which, contrary to what some may think, are rather niche). I understand new game hype, but there is no way so many people would struggle through so much friction on a daily basis just to play a "hyped" game that they dont enjoy. New World had many issues on launch, and its playerbase dropped like a rock very quickly despite being buy to play (which means players are more invested), because the game itself was simply lacking in many aspects, even ignoring technical issues.

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MECHanokl wrote:

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Exile009 wrote:

As for PoE, the game still has a 90% positive rating on Steam. By contrast Lost Ark just came out and this forum has multiple threads on it, including one labeling it as a 'PoE Killer', yet it's rated 69% on Steam.

The game has such a low rating because it got review bombed on Steam (and metacritic) by europeans whose servers are completely overloaded with people, so they have massive issues with matchmaking and long server queues. This really sucks, but has nothing to do with the quality of the games itself, only the service provider.

Despite these massive issues, they refuse to stop playing the game. People leave computers running early morning, start the game remotely from work to avoid queues just to play this "terrible game" with mixed reviews. It still has over 1 million concurent players on Steam (not counting Russia, Japan, and additional 200k+ players in Korea), which is absolutely insane for any game, not to mention an MMO (which, contrary to what some may think, are rather niche). I understand new game hype, but there is no way so many people would struggle through so much friction on a daily basis just to play a "hyped" game that they dont enjoy. New World had many issues on launch, and its playerbase dropped like a rock very quickly despite being buy to play (which means players are more invested), because the game itself was simply lacking in many aspects, even ignoring technical issues.

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LiMA6 wrote:

I don't know why so many people are defending this league/game.

This league has major issues. I'll get into details later. For now I'll just say it's full of boring nonsense.

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Phrazz wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

I don't know why so many people are defending this league/game.

This league has major issues. I'll get into details later. For now I'll just say it's full of boring nonsense.

People are mostly "defending" the patch, not the league. And I think A LOT of people actually like what they have done to the endgame, streamlined it, more player agency through the atlas passive tree and the fact that it's raining Scarabs from the sky.

Just the fact that you don't have to play solitaire with watchstones to progress is a godsend. Everything else is just a bonus. I can't think of one single thing the 'old' endgame did better than the current one.

The league mechanic is average, as it always is when it accompanies a major endgame expansion.

When it comes to the game as a whole, it will always have issues. That's the price to pay for being this progressive. They can't stay on top of everything when they push out new content as often as they do. We can all fantasize about "what if", but this is the route they have chosen - and maybe the route they had to chose in a F2P environment.