POE is ACTUALLY dying not the drama queen kind, but the actual kind... From Developer Hubris

The worst part of the nerfs is no more meme builds. You can't have fun with something suboptimal anymore, hell even content creators like jousis, eirikeiken, and ramyeon stopped making videos for 4 months now...
Man you completely right - this hame got fucked up in all ways.
after playing 6500+ hours, i habe enough experience so say this.

Creativity has gone! You can only do Meta builds nothing else.
If someone finds a nice build than it is nerfed to death. Becouse CW wants players to suffer and have no fun anymore.

Do 15mps sirius dps and have about a 10k-40k elp and still dying to lags and not able to see hits, even in catched video in slow motion not visible why i died!

Ty this game got such shit in all ways. It was very good before.
Last edited by Sithrarin#4891 on Nov 27, 2021, 2:46:11 PM
For me the worst of all is the visuals... Seriously the graphics SUCK a LOT. Ok ok we have better textures yayy that we can't see cause of the multi million effects that plague the screen. From monsters, from party members, even from the terrain itself everything is a damn boom boom chrismas party lsd went wrong mess.

So... Give me minecraft mode, 0 effects from player, minimum effects from monsters and I probably will avoid 95% of my deaths if not more. Last few deaths I had were cause fing corpse explosion that I didnt saw and of corse some shit that even replaying in slowmotion I couldn't figure out what happened (no mobs on screen, 0 debufs, life 100%-0 I was looting so I suspect maybe some offscreen shit got me but I can't see what.

So...

Balance = 0
Visuals = -10
Graphics/texture = 10 for me I rly like the design when I CAN SEEE SHIT
LEAGUE = 0 I hate it
CHASE UNIQUES = 10 best to have some broken uniques than some broken crafted shit
Game fun overall = 2, I'm playing in small sessions when waiting maint of other games or to help some friends get some challenges.
^ The irony of this is I distinctly recall a conversation I had with a senior GGG dev once in which we both agreed how alienating MOBAs were because they were impossible to watch unless you knew exactly what all the skill effects meant. To outsiders it was just a flashy screen mess; we couldn't possibly get the hype.

That last sentence has been an apt description of PoE for at least a few years now. Literally went from a minimalist masterpiece to a masterclass in more is less.
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Nov 27, 2021, 5:07:06 PM
lest all play bow and minion.

also dont forget tower t3.

so much fun.

harvest - bad.
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feral_nature wrote:
lest all play bow and minion.

also dont forget tower t3.

so much fun.

harvest - bad.


You such right. All minions thats the only thing you can play not dying to lags, spikes, drawback, glinches...

And hey nice the storyline again. Yes i love it...
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Sithrarin wrote:
Man you completely right - this hame got fucked up in all ways.
after playing 6500+ hours, i habe enough experience so say this.

Creativity has gone! You can only do Meta builds nothing else.
If someone finds a nice build than it is nerfed to death. Becouse CW wants players to suffer and have no fun anymore.

Do 15mps sirius dps and have about a 10k-40k elp and still dying to lags and not able to see hits, even in catched video in slow motion not visible why i died!

Ty this game got such shit in all ways. It was very good before.


You are playing a paper thin frost blade berserker and you are complaining about dying. Ever thought the reason why you constantly die is because you did not invest anything in defenses?

2500 armour, 911 evasion, 30 block chance, +2% extra max ele res and immortal call is all you got.

No extra phys reduction, no decent armour like 30k or more, no spell suppression, no good block/spell block, no recoup on block, no phys taken as... ect. ect.
You build is basicaly naked.
And on TOP of it only 5,4k life and berserkers 10% extra damage taken...

Those threads here on the forum are full of people not investing in defenses and than complain that they die, its starting to get rediculous.

Always zero investment into defenses, playing 3k HP rat nest mathil builds and than they complain that everything one shots them...
Last edited by Zerber#2188 on Nov 28, 2021, 1:54:05 PM
I dont think PoE is dying but Sirus is a broken content,it cannot be last boss of this game even Uber Elder more fun to fight.
I have a different view on it. I don't necessarily think drop rates or difficulty has much to do with it.

I think the PvE loop is exceptionally stale right now. People are so over grinding A1-10 that there is little to come back for. League rewards? Meh. That's my feeling on league exclusive stuff. All the achievement grinding stuff doesn't make it more fun.

I sometimes am amazed at how many hours I played PoE. That's a testament to how good the game is/was but it doesn't have staying power anymore like it used to. So most likely they are churning through old players and struggling to pull in new players.

I don't think the ARPG is lacking an audience but here's the thing. If you churn through 300k people each league there's no guarantee they come back for the next or the one after that. If they've done A1-10 once some people will never do it again. Ever. So you can gobble up the interest of a few million people pretty easily in a way that isn't sustainable.

I also wouldn't call it a trend as I think this has been a true statement since the 90s that: online P2P gaming has always been way more popular than single player games. The reason for that is dynamism exists in P2P where it doesn't exist in PvE. You can run maps in FPS/MMOs and be practically guaranteed something different will happen in every game. That is if the devs allow for freedom in P2P gameplay.

All of this new stuff in PvE is story-fed. That is you follow an NPC around, it talks a bit and you do a bit of stuff. I find this dreadful after a few dozen let alone a few hundred hours. It's not good design. The games that have a heavy repeating loop are crafted in such a way to eliminate as much of the repetition as possible so that you don't feel like you're looping. Whether it be P2P or randomization of some kind the net effect is you aren't repeating yourself.

Much of PoE feels like I'm repeating myself and I know what that is. Lack of build diversity, A1-10, challenges being what they are every league, the atlas being old as dirt, etc.
I always tryed going far and beyond resorting to league start gauntlet builds but it's over now. Scourge is a pretty good league imho but the scope of builds able to enjoy in there is extremly narrow. This league I rerolled more than ever and achieved maybe even less than in my early days ^^'.
Last edited by galuf#4435 on Nov 29, 2021, 8:36:33 AM

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