POE is ACTUALLY dying not the drama queen kind, but the actual kind... From Developer Hubris
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Forget the "vanity numbers" Even the POE Streamers are tanking hard. The POE category looks as dead right now as it usually does in Month 3 of most leagues. About to get a lot worse as soon as Quin moves back to variety. Ziz is opening LE boxes on stream, and ZiggyD has moved on to variety faster than I think he's ever done before.
This game now feels like Taffy thats been pulled too far apart... I have to echo the common sentiment that the following problems are literally and not figuratively or metaphorically KILLING POE: 1. it feels like shit to play anything thats not "Meta" (until you have enough gear and investment to overcome the CLIFF they've created with the Gem nerfs in 3.15, the flask nerfs which still screw early gameplay and the stealth nerfs (passive tree higher opportunity costs and Fortify butchering) of 3.16), Ailments especially before you have enough currency to roll new tiered flasks (which is huge nerf this league) make anything without immunity feel like trash. So only play things with easy immunity or RMT some flask rolling currency or "farm" for flask rolling currency in Blood Aquaducts LOL. 2. the game got slowed down but is still tuned to prolong or "edge" CuteDog... you can't spend 3 years making it harder and harder for CuteDog to get the good stuff and then ask everyone to slow down without also adjusting 3 years of progressively worse loot which is almost never worth picking up 9,999 items out of 10k are filtered and then another 99% of the non filtered trash is VENDORED BECAUSE IT WAS BAD. On average what are we actually using? One item out of 100,000 dropped? 1 Item out of 200,000? I would love to see the metric for how many items per item drop actually get equipped to a character... its got to be something embarrassingly absurd. 3. They keep saying "we want to slow down play and have more detailed combat" out of one side of their face and "but speed up if you want good rewards" out the other. Sorry Chris but clear speed doesn't actually have to be the only win condition you ever design into the game... But it literally is the only win condition you guys ever design into the game... 4. They keep downplaying nerfs and highlighting buffs but literally every buff they do has a "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" nerf happening behind the scenes. It feels like shit to play POE even when I'm motivated and have time I find myself giving up after a few hours "this feels like shit to play now, I want to play but I can't find anything that feels good any more. I'm attacking in slow motion and juddering around the screen while shit shotguns me through 5 defensive layers" echoing in my head. So basically Developer hubris has caused POE to "jump the shark" and Developer hubris will keep them from being able to see or acknowledge that fact and the game will continue to fall off faster and steeper after every update until such a time as they miraculously see what they've done wrong, and admit to themselves that they screwed up and correct their mistakes or Tencent decides on new management for their failing property. Ofc Tencent stepping in wouldn't actually make the game better it would probably just result in an even bigger disaster. Me I'm going back to D2R (which despite worse QoL and LESS STUFF TO DO in every way, still feels like a better core gameplay loop of killing stuff and getting loot. As well as Last Epoch (which likewise despite being kinda scuffed in early access already feels better to actually PLAY (kill stuff and get loot) So I'm giving the LE guys my best feedback which is basically: "hey please learn from GGG's mistakes and never cater to the zoomers to begin with so you don't have to reverse course and pull your game in two different directions" Both of these games have much slower gameplay but yet: you don't attack in slow motion (since the "melee revamp" made melee worse and you aren't moving in quicksand and they actually FEEL GOOD when fighting... this is another thing POE suffers from: slow base speed, attack and cast until you have enough investment... D2 feels good to kill stuff in blood Moor ffs. GGG literally drawing and quartering Path of Exile. making it slower while leaving it tuned for CuteDog... With predictable and entirely unsurprising losses in players. Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4. If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years. Last bumped on Nov 19, 2021, 3:27:15 PM
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Diablo 2 doesn't feel better, it is better...If by any chance D2R starts adding replayable content and not just baaling and ubering all day, then a lot of the games that tried to copy them can take a brake...including poe.
Never invite Vorana, Last To Fall at a beer party.
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I agree. This game devolved instead of evolving. Sometimes or better yet MOST of the times quantity < quality. Too much bloat, contraditory patches like u mentioned and lack of creativity are killing this game. U only see high numbers at launch cause of marketing, streamers and free twitch drops lol.
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" Some hits and misses here and there for me but the above I can totally agree upon. Gl in any game you play, I find variety to be the spice of life with games. |
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They probably think they can eventually bring back Harvest after most people left
But they probably don't know that most of the players won't come back Need more brains, exile?
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Whats a cutedog?
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I didn't really get the cutedog references and think it derails the content of the thread but I agree with everything OP.
Been playing this game on-off since 2013 open beta. The game obviously isn't the same and wasn't supposed to be either; but I think it has totally gone off the rails some time ago. |
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You have no clue what you are talking about.
Playing a tanky ele with 5mil ignite dps, off meta only like 10 other players playing anything remotly similar on the ladder no problems with content at all. On top of that its the most profitable league for solo player since forever, even more than sitting in discord trading harvest crafts in 3.13. 20 or more EX per day is easily archiveable for everyone. Its nuts. Flask with the "on hit recharge" are insanly good this league. Your whole post reads like "uh I dont want to adapt to changes after a new patch hit" like seriously this or 3.15 wherent even the most brutal nerf patches in the history of PoE... get a grip... |
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The problem is these threads are the vocal minority and they don’t have any sort of criteria for “dead game”. Only GGG can re us what constitutes a dead game. Please stop beating a dead horse. Pun intended.
"Bonus points if it is Scion/Witch because they have nice knees. Ranger has ugly knees and other characters are men so playing them would be homoerotic." - CAKE, 10/20/21
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" So someone tells u how he feels about the game hes been playing some time and you tell him that he has no clue what he is talking about. Does that mean that his thoughts are clueless. Im confused |
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