POE just had it's 3rd biggest launch EVER! This forum be like "game is ded".

some ppl just love to hate

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trixxar wrote:

If you say so

By any chance do you have numbers for the last 3 weeks of a cycle. Launch numbers are not really interesting with the amount of quitter.

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brunowa wrote:

This forum is hilarious.

Literally, EVERY LEAGUE without fail this forum is swarmed with "game is ded", "GGG don't know what they're doing", "goodbye threads".

The reality is that POE just had it's 3rd largest league launch in its history... And that was WITHOUT any new end game content added.

The game continues to thrive.

Sure, have your opinion that you don't like how things get nerfed, but that's POE and it has happened every league without fail for 8 years.

The good news is, GGG won't listen to you AND they will continue to thrive and smash 200,000 concurrent players soon (steam alone).

So complain all you want, but you're missing reality and it won't make a difference.

This game is a BEAST that will only continue to thrive, regardless of what you might say or think.

3d biggest launch and after 5 days they lost 40% of their players database. WELL PLAYED BUD, WELL PLAYED XD

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pifpep wrote:

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trixxar wrote:

If you say so

By any chance do you have numbers for the last 3 weeks of a cycle. Launch numbers are not really interesting with the amount of quitter.

So apparently I had nothing better to do...



So while the percentage of peak players that PoE can keep playing for a prolonged period seems to be in decline, the opposite can be said for the absolute number of players.

And of course making a graph, inserting a linear regression and drawing any conclusions from that does probably not only make Shagsbeard cringe.
I am not much of a statistics expert, but with the general variation in the I'm not sure if these lines are statistically significant at all.

^the last graph is clearly driven by Ritual and to some extent by Metamorph and Delirium, whereas there is a clear drop afterwards for Ultimatum and Expedition. I would not call that a "positive development". The line is also only very slightly increasing. All that, ignoring a proper stats analysis, like you suggested.

By the way, I doubt anyone wants poe to die, people are rather upset when they spend so much time and at the end get nothing out of it, because their builds are destroyed. There is no long-term balance or stability. Last patch changed everything, even the tree.
Comparing this to d2: in d2 there were also balance changes over the years, but never as invasive. The game environment was stable, and still had plenty of players always playing. Why? Because the endgame (PVP and/or reaching 99) required a lot of time and effort, and was fun. Imagine full inventory with all skillers +45 life, perf. annihilius etc. You know what I am talking about - almost no one ever had this, but in theory you could. In POE this could never happen - people do not recommend you to play Standard league, it's considered garbage, filled with many imbalanced items from the past, etc.
This path is much better than the poe path of keeping the game interesting imho. New content is great, but the constant balance overhaul is not. Either they have lost control of their game and the millions of interactions that each change causes, or they want it that way. Because restarting means more effort/time means more MTX/revenue.

I enjoy the game and I hope it "does not die", to make that very clear. Nontheless you can discuss the issues on this forum, it might help the developers to see what we are worrying about.

By the way, one thing to make Standard a good and fair league would be to retroactively remove all legacy items and mods. It could be announced before and people could get a certain compensation of the latest market value (average over some month) of legacy items. This would be a step into the right direction to make this league viable again.

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Dan1986 wrote:

By the way, I doubt anyone wants poe to die

2 leagues strait has been nothing but lies and manipulation. I regret spending hard earned money to support this game in 3.16.

[Removed by Support]

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brunowa wrote:

This forum is hilarious.

Literally, EVERY LEAGUE without fail this forum is swarmed with "game is ded", "GGG don't know what they're doing", "goodbye threads".

The reality is that POE just had it's 3rd largest league launch in its history... And that was WITHOUT any new end game content added.

The game continues to thrive.

Sure, have your opinion that you don't like how things get nerfed, but that's POE and it has happened every league without fail for 8 years.

The good news is, GGG won't listen to you AND they will continue to thrive and smash 200,000 concurrent players soon (steam alone).

So complain all you want, but you're missing reality and it won't make a difference.

This game is a BEAST that will only continue to thrive, regardless of what you might say or think.

in general you might be right, but those who make those post arent speaking for majority, they speak for themself...

for me i can say my last purchase to support the game was years ago (with the harpy pack ) and i dont plan to buy any packs in the near future since i feel, ggg doenst care about standard every new update proves it.... they can pretty much 100 qol changes which takes literally zero time to implented, but standard? its dead for ggg

Well, the successful launch can be explained by the hype - the League was overhyped but in reality it is much more underwhelming than it was advertised.

I personally am enjoying it a lot because I had a few months break from PoE.

Doomsayers who keep saying that the game is dead are just silly. But then again I've seen people writing this stuff on forums in every online game I've played - WoW, Hearthstone, League of Legends, Overwatch, Dead by Daylight, you name it. Yet all of these games are still very much alive.

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brunowa wrote:

This forum is hilarious.

Literally, EVERY LEAGUE without fail this forum is swarmed with "game is ded", "GGG don't know what they're doing", "goodbye threads".

The reality is that POE just had it's 3rd largest league launch in its history... And that was WITHOUT any new end game content added.

The game continues to thrive.

Sure, have your opinion that you don't like how things get nerfed, but that's POE and it has happened every league without fail for 8 years.

The good news is, GGG won't listen to you AND they will continue to thrive and smash 200,000 concurrent players soon (steam alone).

So complain all you want, but you're missing reality and it won't make a difference.

This game is a BEAST that will only continue to thrive, regardless of what you might say or think.

If it's one of Einheart's beasts then it explains your point...Since most of them are pretty meme.

I've been here over 9 years, there is always someone doomsaying about this game.