Saw Peach playing POE! GGG could be printing money right now!

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

it needs a whole new project team, devoted to catering to MMO players, in my honest opinion.

... *facepalm* jesus christ lol... Your opinion is wrong. Catering to MMO players? MMORPGs are NOT ARPGs. If you want boring gameplay, then go play an MMO? This is not the place.

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MarcEric wrote:

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With the mass exodus of WoW players and Preach one of the biggest streamers in the world playing POE, I cant help but wonder if ggg actually spend some time IMPROVING the new player's experience instead of making it worse by juicing up act 1. GGG would not just gona be getting INCREASED money but could be making MORE money instead. This joke is not nearly as funny as the current state of the dead league.

Unlike with Asmongold who successfully had his viewership moving to FFXIV, Preach, though he sustained his viewership, hasn't succeeded and gathering traction to POE. One main reason, MMORPG players are mostly looking for a communal gaming experience which POE isn't friendly with.

I'd say the core POE community is rather toxic.

But that said, he seems to keep racking viewership unlike most POE streamers... the amount of views they are now gathering is pretty abyssmal.

With D2 Rez one week away, I do not see POE gathering much traction for the rest of the year. Peeps seem to be discounting this rework as feeding to Nostalgia... but that is writing down how solid of a game D2 remains. Fun, fast, multiplayer friendly and casual player friendly.

We'll see how things go, but I am no longer holding my breath for upcoming PoE patches.

Yeah, even if Preach isn't racking in high numbers of views, to be honest he never has. He's a B rated streamer, not a A rated streamer like Asmongold. Even when Preach was doing WoW content, B tier. So that's normal.

Overall tho, POE has gotten some 400,000 viewed videos, for reviews, be it Asmons or Lazy's, or the next guy who makes a review video. Overall that's 400% more views than Planetside 2 is getting. 400% more cash shop fund potential than Planetide 2 is getting (or has gotten, for many years now). A larger international audience than PS2 has. & More servers already than PS2. I'm not suggesting to play PS2, because I'm burnt out from overplaying it. I am however comparing, that Planetside 2, just released a new update with robotic race, new vehicles, & are releasing a new contentant. If they can release these huge updates in production, with 400% less advertising or review-views or international audience, than what's POE's excuse for not updating the game beyond just league talks or content?

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

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you might as well stop wasting your time hanging around here typing all these things out. so far since youve been on these forums youve ranted about how poe, a predominantly single player played trade economy arpg doesnt have as much pvp as a completely pvp fps game like planetside, and now you want them to stop making an arpg and make an mmo instead because you dont like all the mmos out there?


why are you wasting so much of your time posting all this? you must know that going to the forums of an arpg and asking it to be a different type of game is never going to happen. is this a joke? is this meant to be a sort of ironic account where you say the most implausible thing you can think of for a laugh? have you tried going to the planetside forum and trying to make the case that it should be a digital card game? perhaps overwatch should switch to being a competitive racing car game?


they tried pvp, they spent a ton of time and energy on it and no one cared, no one played it, no one comes to an arpg to play pvp because this is the worst genre of game in the entire world to pvp in. its not an mmo, its not an fps, it will never be a completely different genre of game to what it is now. go post on an mmo forum where the devs are actually trying to make an mmo about things youd like to see in an mmo that you are not currently getting.

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

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MarcEric wrote:

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With the mass exodus of WoW players and Preach one of the biggest streamers in the world playing POE, I cant help but wonder if ggg actually spend some time IMPROVING the new player's experience instead of making it worse by juicing up act 1. GGG would not just gona be getting INCREASED money but could be making MORE money instead. This joke is not nearly as funny as the current state of the dead league.

Unlike with Asmongold who successfully had his viewership moving to FFXIV, Preach, though he sustained his viewership, hasn't succeeded and gathering traction to POE. One main reason, MMORPG players are mostly looking for a communal gaming experience which POE isn't friendly with.

I'd say the core POE community is rather toxic.

But that said, he seems to keep racking viewership unlike most POE streamers... the amount of views they are now gathering is pretty abyssmal.

With D2 Rez one week away, I do not see POE gathering much traction for the rest of the year. Peeps seem to be discounting this rework as feeding to Nostalgia... but that is writing down how solid of a game D2 remains. Fun, fast, multiplayer friendly and casual player friendly.

We'll see how things go, but I am no longer holding my breath for upcoming PoE patches.

Yeah, even if Preach isn't racking in high numbers of views, to be honest he never has. He's a B rated streamer, not a A rated streamer like Asmongold. Even when Preach was doing WoW content, B tier. So that's normal.

Overall tho, POE has gotten some 400,000 viewed videos, for reviews, be it Asmons or Lazy's, or the next guy who makes a review video. Overall that's 400% more views than Planetside 2 is getting. 400% more cash shop fund potential than Planetide 2 is getting (or has gotten, for many years now). A larger international audience than PS2 has. & More servers already than PS2. I'm not suggesting to play PS2, because I'm burnt out from overplaying it. I am however comparing, that Planetside 2, just released a new update with robotic race, new vehicles, & are releasing a new contentant. If they can release these huge updates in production, with 400% less advertising or review-views or international audience, than what's POE's excuse for not updating the game beyond just league talks or content?

If u really want to compare that... what about WoW and their update schedule compared to PoEs? Blizzard is raking in money from WoW and they update the game what, every 9 months?

If u saw the Baeclast with Preach u also would have heard how excited he was, when he heard about the update cycle in PoE and for how long those guys have been doing it. So new content every 3 months is a huge deal, I don't know Planetside nor how their schedule works, but I doubt they are doing the same with the same scope/quality. (+developing PoE2 at the same time)

/e: anyway I agree with snorkle. U're either a troll or really at the wrong place here. That's my last post. have a great one Exile :)

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HChristopher2671 wrote:

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

it needs a whole new project team, devoted to catering to MMO players, in my honest opinion.

... *facepalm* jesus christ lol... Your opinion is wrong. Catering to MMO players? MMORPGs are NOT ARPGs. If you want boring gameplay, then go play an MMO? This is not the place.

ARPG players are mmorpg players. It's the reason Lazy Peon covered Last Epoch + POE *drops mic*.

MMORPG players come from Diablo 2, half the time. Either that or Ragnarok Online.

MMORPG players are going to play Lost Ark.

MMORPG players play Moba's.

MMORPG players play any type of RPG game, even Dark Souls.

Not to mention, even if you did play Diablo 2, back then, most played it for Battle.net, & not the single player option.

(You know who doesn't play multiplayer games on the pc? Console players, that's who, ignore the console player logic? ok then)

So that leaves you, basic pve guy, who didn't even play Baldur's Gate, yet wants this game to be modeled off it. No Thanks.

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

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HChristopher2671 wrote:

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

it needs a whole new project team, devoted to catering to MMO players, in my honest opinion.

... *facepalm* jesus christ lol... Your opinion is wrong. Catering to MMO players? MMORPGs are NOT ARPGs. If you want boring gameplay, then go play an MMO? This is not the place.

ARPG players are mmorpg players. It's the reason Lazy Peon covered Last Epoch + POE *drops mic*. LOOOL

ive never played an mmorpg, ive never played a moba, ive never played dark souls.

ive played diablo 1, 2, 3, torchlight and tl2, grim dawn, titan quest, last epoch, wolcen, poe.


theres a new mmorpg out every 5 minutes, their playerbases all complain about them all the time and they usually die within 6 months. feel free to go play one, this game has been here for 8 years being an arpg and no, the updates this game has received in that time probably took significantly more development time than planetsides.

ive played planetside, its alright, its got that sort of chaotic battlefield thing going on. if you actually want to play a pvp fps though pretty much anything other than overwatch is pointless tbh, OW is miles better than anything else out there. the rest are just a spawn spam die repeat noobfest of nonsense or you are sitting behind a box in counterstrike for 4 days scared to take a piss in your geek leek in case the guy with the bomb finally leaves his camp and tries to win the round.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

ive never played an mmorpg, ive never played a moba, ive never played dark souls.

ive played diablo 1, 2, 3, torchlight and tl2, grim dawn, titan quest, last epoch, wolcen, poe.


theres a new mmorpg out every 5 minutes, their playerbases all complain about them all the time and they usually die within 6 months. feel free to go play one, this game has been here for 8 years being an arpg and no, the updates this game has received in that time probably took significantly more development time than planetsides.

ive played planetside, its alright, its got that sort of chaotic battlefield thing going on. if you actually want to play a pvp fps though pretty much anything other than overwatch is pointless tbh, OW is miles better than anything else out there. the rest are just a spawn spam die repeat noobfest of nonsense or you are sitting behind a box in counterstrike for 4 days scared to take a piss in your geek leek in case the guy with the bomb finally leaves his camp and tries to win the round.

Theirs not a new mmorpg out every 5 minutes, nor a good one out for the past 20 years. It's Ragnarok Online --- > WoW --- > (tons of bad mmo's) ---> Guild Wars 2 --- > (& now Final Fantasy for a niche crowd). Everything else failed, was P2W, copied WoW badly, or was a Korean grinder.

I've played 90% of mmorpg's & Planetsides mmofps is more balanced, than any mmo out there, I've ever seen. Where a lvl 1 can kill a lvl 220, by skill or blind spots. That leveling up, just adds more tools to your belt, or options, but never makes you unkillable or overpowered. It's as balanced as it gets for a mmo. Plus being able to switch classes on the fly. Plus that a free game, has better lagless servers for a 100vs100vs100, than WoW has for 40vs40. That a free game balances its faction vs faction maps, better than WoW balances its Battleground maps.

Tho that's getting off-topic. Overall I still stand by my point, that most played Diablo 2 for Battle.net's multiplayer lobbies & not for the single player.

So even if you go the ARPG subject matter, your skipping the part where Diablo 2's biggest reason for success WAS THE MULTIPLAYER, part of it.

So improve on those features, don't stay in the 1990's, we've evolved past dial up internet, evolved past battle.net lobbies, even for ARPG's in general.

Is this guy the new Kopogero?

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MarloStanfield wrote:

Is this guy the new Kopogero?

mh maybe. I dunno if he killed Act10 Kitava on a Marauder tho.