Streamer Big Ducks unloads on GGG and people who attack those critical of GGG

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Deadandlivin wrote:

leagues seem to lose about 40% of their playerbase after 1 month.

Ultimatum: 41% lost after 1 month
Ritual: 35% lost after 1 month
Heist: 38% lost after 1 month
Harvest: 49% lost after 1 month (Extremely criticized league by alot of people)
Delirium: 39% lost after 1 month
Metamorph: 23% lost after 1 month
Blight: 53% lost after 1 month (Another extremely badly recieved league)

Now compare that to Expedition which has lost 65% of its playerbase in 2 weeks.
TWO WEEKS. The league isn't just performing badly like Blight and Harvest did.
It's performing astonishinglt poor. This is the worst performing league in history.

That's...really unfortunate. =( I hope it doesn't severely damage GGG. I remember they put off a league at the start of the year because launching it along side CyberPunk 2077 would've been really, really bad for them.

What Big Ducks and Ghazzy and most of the Streamers and Contentcreators are saying is absolulty spot on and its a shame what is happing to this Game which i spend almost 5000hours and hundrets of euros on.

Next expension is the last one i am going to try. Just to see, if they NOW acctually listen to the playerbase and make the game for people to acctually enjoy it or continue to lash out on the brought playerbase with fucked up gamechanges, just because either some smart guys figure out ways to trivialies GGG's Gamedevelopment or they doing it by multible Mirrorbuilds that not even 5% of the playerbase will be playing.

Sorry that i have to say that but in my opinion GGG's Ego is just way to big and in the end it is going to chrush their own Game -.-

Really good points on that video.

For that one who want "banhammers" for people who dont like the changes... WOW!!!! xDDD banhammer your customers! add "it`s just... good business" meme.

Nice video he put out. i'm pulling my hair playing this league and TBH had these problems last league but now it's worse:

*Dying to god knows what. (Cheap deaths - getting good doesn't matter)
*Can't kill Bosses (normal red A5 bosses not the 0.01% ones that no one can - Maven got killed by 0.01% of players it even counted the ones who use carry)
*Can't even find the right items on trade.
*Can't level up, playing 5+ hours a day so i can die and lose all progress.
*100s of hours in the league only 1 exalt dropped.
*100s of hours only 8 Expedition maps.
*Prices are too high to the point that you can't complete the build.
*Builds are rubish now, even with investments.
*Why monsters killing you from off screen ?
*How can monsters curse you from two screen away ?
*Why some of monsters are so god damn fast ? Sonic invaded the game ?
*Why movement skills are so bad ? why most of the times they rubber band you back to where you were but monsters wont ? they come for you and then you rubber banded back between them.
*Why there are only 4 builds now ? thought the whole point of the nerfs were to diversify the builds.
*Why Enlighten won't drop ? last league it was, here one for you, one for thee but now ? nothing.
*Why XP penalty exist ? we have 6 Portals which is punishing enough.
*Why they are gizzilion currencies ? why they don't stack higher ? why they aren't auto picked ?
*Why Portal/Identify scrolls are a thing ?
*Why after killing a pack they are 4billion Items on the ground ? and why all of them are trash ? why loot filter isn't something customizable in-game and why we have to use a 3rd party site to solve it ? doesn't all these millions of items on the ground causing lag etc ? i rather play a map and get one or two item drops but good ones, instead of 4 billion trash.
*Why we don't have Auction House ?
*Why my 4th caustic arrow shot empties my Mana pool ?


Lets say you stopped power creeps (which you didn't) why you killed the rest of the builds ? majority of players were stuggling to reach near end-game, now they struggle and then quit way before that. you hate them ? making it harder, sure, i'm fine with it, but it's not hard, it's cheap. slow doesn't belong in a Diblo style ARPG. the whole point of the genre specially isometric ones is to kill many thing as fast as you can kill.

You can see everyone is stuggling, even most of the hardcore crowd. before that Streamers and Build Guide people were ready, making builds even with changes way before the league, now ? emmm, here guys, this is my build, its slow, and unfinished, we don't know what to do with it next, join my discord for more info. or some of them put an Out-Dated tag on them.

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PhotriusPyrelus wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

leagues seem to lose about 40% of their playerbase after 1 month.

Ultimatum: 41% lost after 1 month
Ritual: 35% lost after 1 month
Heist: 38% lost after 1 month
Harvest: 49% lost after 1 month (Extremely criticized league by alot of people)
Delirium: 39% lost after 1 month
Metamorph: 23% lost after 1 month
Blight: 53% lost after 1 month (Another extremely badly recieved league)

Now compare that to Expedition which has lost 65% of its playerbase in 2 weeks.
TWO WEEKS. The league isn't just performing badly like Blight and Harvest did.
It's performing astonishinglt poor. This is the worst performing league in history.

That's...really unfortunate. =( I hope it doesn't severely damage GGG. I remember they put off a league at the start of the year because launching it along side CyberPunk 2077 would've been really, really bad for them.

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This far under states how terrible Expedition player retention is. Just using Steam #'s the starting player population for Expedition was about 1/3 less than either Ultimatum or Ritual. Players who decided not to even bother.

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MrWonderful99 wrote:

This far under states how terrible Expedition player retention is. Just using Steam #'s the starting player population for Expedition was about 1/3 less than either Ultimatum or Ritual. Players who decided not to even bother.

What grim news. =( I hope they don't fold before PoE 2.0. I'm *really* looking forward to the skills revamp in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDGfhOEsJoU

from mbxtreme

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QuiquePoE wrote:

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innervation wrote:

No matter how many times you twist my words into something I didn't say, I will not spend 20 minutes listening to the sermon of someone who intentionally makes themselves miserable.

Sure, anyone can critique. But I don't have to value it. Not when they preface it with extreme hyperbole / self sabotage of credibility.

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pifpep wrote:

Well i watched 45 seconds, at that point he wanted some feedback below. Nothing interesting was said until then, so i'm better off listening to music and playing poe.

Ahh... the TL;DR crowd. Whose precious time impedes them from watching a video, but not from commenting on a thread discussing such video.

To the OP, I also found his video resonating with me and my thoughts.

Cheers!

Were my posts tl;dr for you? That's not my position at all. The irony.

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ZionHalcyon wrote:

The main issue, and it's one big ducks pointed out is that they are slowly also nursing everything that players have found to be fun while giving them absolutely nothing new that is fun to replace it.

Fun is the word.

Why is asking/crying/begging for "fun" in every game, including this one, used to hide the obvious, which is asking for overpowered/broken characters?

Why hide behind "fun"?

Be a (wo)man and say it out loud:

"I want them to keep every overpowered skill, build, loophole and/or gamebreaking exploit in the game, because I don't want to die and I want to always win and I want to click once and game explodes."

Because that's what "fun" in all these "but but but they took muh FUN away" posts is.

I totally agree with big_ducks, this league is pretty frustrating for me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlDOc7t89P4

another good video, from Path of Matth